• joeljoelle@piefed.world
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    I’ve thought about all sorts of horrible things I’d never even contemplate actually doing. I’m sure I’m not alone.

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      Absolutely, there’s a huge difference between thinking about doing something and then letting the thought go compared to doing anything on the path to actually doing it.

    • Sundray@lemmus.org
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      I often used to have intrusive violent or sexual thoughts about strangers I’d see out in the world. They were unwanted and I found them horrifying, and of course would never do anything like that to anyone. Medication eventually helped.

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        That sounds a bit scary, glad you found some relief. Yeah the key thing is self control and of course recognizing they are bad in the first place. Mine are fairly random, like my brain just likes to remind me what horrors the human mind is capable of for some reason.

      • Jax@sh.itjust.works
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        Mm, you can fixate on killing someone without using a gun.

        You could use a knife, a rope, poison, there are any number of things you can use to kill someone.

        Maybe that 93% just very specifically envisions harming others without guns!

        Lol no, many of them are lying.

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          Woodchipper, car bomb, garbage compactor, fire, a single large rock, multiple smaller rocks, open windows, closed windows and some force… The list goes on and on

          Update:

          • drum of boiling water
          • large cat exhibit at the zoo
          • thrown from a highway bridge
          • snake pit
          • drowning in a cesspool
          • explosive butt plug
          • fire ant
          • flying with Tom Hanks in a movie

          A bit exotic perhaps, but strapped to a rocket and hurled at a building.

    • AA5B@lemmy.world
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      Yeah it all depends on the wording and how honest they are. Sometimes I’m frustrated enough to get all sorts of dark thought to inflict on them. But I have impulse control.

      One of the reasons we need better gun control is too many people don’t. Or maybe too many people live in fear enough to escalate to deadly violence

    • MalReynolds@slrpnk.net
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      Yep, what a load of bollocks, the only thing this study is useful for is why would you do this.

      • architect@thelemmy.club
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        People answer surveys as their ideal self not honestly. So yea most people, considering the constant virtue signaling about how non violent they are (lol to be proud of non violence while a pedophile rules you is a definitely a moral choice), are going to answer these surveys saying they are non violent.

        They are the most violent among us and they always have justification.

  • ∟⊔⊤∦∣≶@lemmy.nz
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    As an anti-gun anti-american pacific redneck, I have also thought about shooting people, at least once per week. There’s only 3 people alive I would actually ever shoot though, given the chance.

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    I don’t know how you could be older than 12 and not wanted to shoot someone ever.

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      I can honestly say I’ve never wanted to shoot, stab, or otherwise greviously injure someone. I’ve gotten into some fistfights when emotions have gotten out of hand, but this is maybe why its important that everyone is not running around with a way to blast holes in people.

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      Maybe they asked like, “SERIOUSLY thought about shooting someone” or perhaps “thought about shooting someone at a time that you actually had the means to do it” or even “made mental plans to shoot someone.”

      Or maybe I’m more of a psychopath than I thought I was. Like I don’t actually want to hurt anyone, and I don’t even own a gun, but the number of times it crossed my mind…

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        I think the headline flattened the question. Most people have thought about it happening, I’d wager, but less thought about doing it.

  • Em Adespoton@lemmy.ca
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    When I was doing my firearms training, one of the first things they had us do was think about shooting someone else… and then they taught us how to avoid doing so.

    Does that mean only 7% of American adults have had decent firearms training?

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      Based on how the question is phrased, it can be very open to interpretation.

      I’ve thought all kinds of sick thoughts along the lines of “I could push this person in front of the arriving metro”, or “I’m holding a kitchen knife, if I were to stab the other person in the kitchen there’s nothing they could do about it”. When I was in the army, and we were at the shooting range, I could get thoughts about how easy it would be to shoot a whole load of people. Of course, I never consider doing those things. I’m talking about people I would lay down my life to protect, and I still get these thoughts.

      I was very relieved when I read somewhere that this is fairly normal, and some researchers ascribed it to a protection mechanism: Their theory (which they provided some evidence for), was that be evoking these thoughts, your brain makes you more aware of acute potential dangers, so that you can act more carefully to avoid them. Basically, by becoming conscious that you could push/stab/shoot someone, you handle your movement/knife/firearm more carefully to avoid doing so by accident.

      So: Have I thought about shooting someone? Plenty of times. Have I considered shooting someone? Never.

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      That is an interesting thought exercise, I’ve gone through a few different firearm trainings through the years and never gone through that exercise.

      But to speak to the original topic… Yeah I’ve definitely had that thought. Never seriously, but ya know, intrusive thoughts and all that.

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      Only 7% makes me think people are interpreting the question as “would you admit on the phone to seriously considering shooting another person”.

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    If I ever get mad enough at someone to picture killing them it’s usually a blunt force weapon, so I get the low value on shooting here.