• Brokkr@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    Article states the use of an electron beam to enable this. So not currently scalable, but still a seemingly significant result.

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    8 months ago

    Or, better yet, they could provide the same range in smaller, lighter vehicles with less resource use.

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      8 months ago

      From the article:

      “Moreover, the silicon-gel electrolyte system demonstrated ion conductivity comparable to conventional batteries while achieving a remarkable 40 percent increase in energy density. This represents a significant leap forward in battery technology, offering a practical solution ready for immediate application.”

      So, same energy output, lower weight, similar range. Would be good if this soon becomes a drop in replacement option for older EVs that are nearing EOL on their batteries and require new ones anyway.

    • JasSmith@sh.itjust.works
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      Lots of surveys show one of the primary barriers to EV adoption is range anxiety. I’ve seen people trying to “educate” potential customers out of this anxiety, but it’s pissing into the wind. You’re not going to convince most people to downgrade their current ICE experience while paying the same or usually even more. I think the inflection point is above real world range for ICE. For example my 2016 Honda Civic can get about 7-800km of range on a single tank, and stops are as quick as a few minutes. This provides a lot of flexibility about where and when one stops. The range needs to account for:

      • The 20-40 minute charge vs five minutes for gas.

      • The lack of chargers relative to gas stations.

      • The 30% drop in range in the cold.

      Our annual Austria ski trip takes about 30% longer in our Model Y than the Civic. That’s hours extra on an already very long drive, and the Y costs a lot more. That’s a big downgrade in experience. An appalling experience with a family. We won’t be buying another EV until affordable range is above 1,000km (620 miles). I know many current, former, and non-EV owners who feel the same.

      There is a market for commuter cars with poor range, but primarily in rich places where owning 2-3 cars is common. These rich places have already bought EVs as they are. Most of the world relies on just one car, if they own one at all. That one car needs to perform well in all conditions.

      • set_secret@lemmy.world
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        8 months ago

        “Save the planet? Sure, but only if it doesn’t slightly inconvenience my leisure activities or make me wait a bit longer.” This mindset perfectly encapsulates why we’re in such a mess: an astounding commitment to personal comfort at the expense of the planet’s future. It’s like saying, “I’ll help fight climate change, but only if it’s on my terms and doesn’t affect my ski trips.” Because, obviously, ensuring our convenience is far more critical than addressing a global crisis. It’s this precise “me first, planet later” attitude that’s steering us towards an ecological disaster, yet here we are…

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    I won’t be buying a new car. ICE or EV. Specifically because my old car doesn’t have a lot of the things that allow the car manufacturer to spy on me, and I won’t upgrade to any of the nonsense. Right now I can fix pretty much everything in that car for less than the price of a new vehicle.

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      8 months ago

      I’ve managed to somehow make friends with the owner of a local junkyard. Not quite sure how I did that it wasn’t intentional but it’s quite useful because I can get parts for my car that the manufacturer would want hundreds of pounds for otherwise.

      In the future I bet they pull some apple style rubbish and start software locking components to individual vehicles so you can’t just pull them off a donor car to fix yours

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        8 months ago

        Better hope donor parts don’t start getting used to by pass security features or this will happen in an instant

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          Seems unlikely. For one because donor parts like computers would have to be programmed (either by the manufacturer, or a mechanic with access to a scan tool that could do so), and so if you need a new ECU you’re limited to those options or a third party service that will clone that computer. And two, most of the things I’d need to replace on that car that aren’t computer related are easy to get second hand from a pick n pull, junk yard, or aftermarket and don’t really have the kinds of electronics used to send and receive info to a car manufacturers servers. I’m not worried that my MAP sensor is gonna spy on me to BMW. I would worry if it were an ECU or a TCM or the like. The other thing is it would require upgrading the 3G chip in a lot of cars on the road to 4G or similar and or plugging a 4G device into the car somewhere like the OBD port which would be quite obvious in my car.

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    8 months ago

    gasoline cars and motorcycles will be missed, like analog film cameras and quarter inch reel tape. people will imagine what it must have been like when cars were bad ass.

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    1k mile or kilometer range? Which is it? I’m inclined to believe it’s kilometers. Time to read the article, I suppose. It’s enticing either way.

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      8 months ago

      They demonstrated 40% increase in energy density.

      The stuff about the range appears to be simply applying that percentage to common EV ranges, which is nonsense. It’s probably more likely that an increase in energy density would be used to decrease battery size, leading to cheaper and lighter EVs

    • betabob@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      8 months ago

      A bit misleading but yes, 1000km is what they are talking about. Also the article doesn’t address scalability.

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    8 months ago

    That would go a long way towards solving the range anxiety barrier. 1000km is close to the maximum that same people can do in a single day. Yes, you could push further in a day in a pinch, but not comfortably unless you’re rotating drivers. It’s pretty close to the limits enforced on long haul truck drivers in Canada or the US (depends on speed limits and traffic density and a few other things).

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    8 months ago

    The problem is we can’t keep the same resources waste up. Lower range and smaller cars is what is needed. The perfect car of the future would be a one-seater that is as small and light as a electric velomobile (~70kg). Build a few millions of them and replace all cars in a city with those. Ideally self driving and as a robo-taxi, but even without the self driving this would be good. Of course cars isn’t really that high on the list for climate change.

    But as a civilization we are simply not an intelligent species.

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      8 months ago

      how do we magically get goods to and from?

      grocery store trips?

      what about other items from the store such as TVs?

      what about families?

      have you seen what is required daily or weekly for a baby?

      what about a Micro Center trip?

      https://www.velomobileworld.com/

      not intelligent to be able move people and objects around?

      travel over 3,000 miles every few months for work out of state and could not see myself in that taking naps at a rest stop comfortably

      with such out of touch comments the petrol conundrum may never be solved