The Reddit Protest Is Finally Over. Reddit Won.::Reddit corporate claims victory over its disgruntled mods as r/aww, r/pics, and r/videos abandon the “John Oliver rule.”

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    11 months ago

    They won, but hopefully the hit they took gives them pause. Lemmy won too, it’s become a nice little community and I’m happy to be here.

  • Phantom_Engineer@lemmy.ml
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    11 months ago

    Bullshit. Nobody, or at least very few people, expected Reddit to revert the changes. A protest can be successful even if it doesn’t lead to immediate change. I was here on Lemmy long before the API nonsense happened over at Reddit, and the difference over here is night and day. Lemmy has been around for awhile, but until these last few months it couldn’t hold a candle to Reddit in terms of content or activity. Maybe it still can’t, but now it has enough users to be viable. Reddit might go on like nothing happened, but in the background a competitor has been born.

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      I migrated from Reddit. Most of the communities I followed would be hours or days between posts (if they were not private). Everything left was just not pleasant.

      I am still fumbling around here but for the most part it is has better discussions and people seem less rude.

      I do not regret leaving at this time. I am sure my infinitesimal presence or lack there of does not bother Reddit, but it made me feel better.

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    11 months ago

    A shadow of its former self but they managed to clear out the troublemakers

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    Reddit won at building its own viable competitors like Kbin, Lemmy, and Squabbles and all the users of those platforms also won big from Reddit’s hubris. The one thing I know for sure is that they have grown Lemmy by 7000%, and that’s nothing to sneeze at.

    Time will tell what happens to Reddit.

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    Just If you consider the growth of 7000% of a competitor in the era when many players fight for the attention of the users a victory. Time will tell

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    They didn’t win, they just didn’t fail as badly some had hoped. What was accomplished was spreading out a fair portion of their user base. Maybe not a huge percentage of it, but enough that they don’t have the same level of monopoly. People are more aware of other options (and Reddit’s flaws), and more will depart in time.

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    No they did not win. People just expect people to move out from an historic platform overnight. This just doesn’t happen like that. Like Twitter, they’ll be small events that will make users want to find alternatives and migrate here.

    That crisis made Lemmy way more populated, just for that we won in a way

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    11 months ago

    it feels like a biased, paid and made up news for spez’s money to try and revive this hole of a website. most of r/all posts are repost bots, as well as comments in them.

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    That’s not true. It may be true in r/technology, but reddit hasn’t won. It’s just that those still on Reddit didn’t make it.

    We showed that we care, and we showed that we can dump them. Reddit is currently dying. It may be a slow process, but I don’t think the enshittification of reddit will stop.

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      Yep, and while Lemmy was rough around the edges when people started looking for alternatives, now there’s a glut of great clients and active communities. Reddit only needs one more screw up before the remaining users find a compelling alternative.

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    They might have won but now that Rif doesn’t work anymore I’m testing Lemmy. I’ve noticed that reddit content is less updated throughough the day so I suppose that some active posters have left.

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      I bet the “Reddit won” statement is a bit premature. Yes in a sense it pushed forward what they wanted to do kicking out third-party apps and moderators who didn’t toe the line. In the end, they kept the traffic but it must be mostly the silent majority of lurkers. I bet a significant chunk of the minority providing content and discussion went away or at least is trying out alternatives and finding a new home in the likes of Lemmy.

      Time will tell if Reddit stagnates/declines content-wise.

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    Sadly, Reddit has won. Their traffic is higher now than before the API protests. It seems like the saying "All publicity is good publicity was true in this case. While one can appreciate a minimal downtrend in Twitter interest (as expected), Reddit interest is growing and even more after the protests. Google trends:

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      That is search terms not traffic. If I Google “Reddit controversy” it will add to the Reddit stat. Your literally just asking Google to tell you how many people included the word “Reddit” in their search query.

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        11 months ago

        You’re right, I should have said search interest. Though, I would argue it is correlated.

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    I dont know what you say, I transitioned to Lemmy 100% and deleted my acc at reddit.

    The only super annoying thing is that they get to keep the cake whole and the dog full (my comments by deleting my name and my acc deleted). Which I despite them for that even more now and just make me avoid the platform even more and dis-advertise it.

    I would be fully happy if I had my account, changed my comments first to “fuck /u/spez” and then had deleted my account, but I only knew so much. I was naive enough to think they would delete my comments too, since they’re My Intellectual Property. Right? They came from my own mind, I took the time to write them, and I deleted them! But no! We will keep them, just delete your name.

    And when you google my reddit username, you still get from the google’s cache directed to threads with my deleted comments. Fuck you spez. Fuck you.

    Time will tell if reddit won. It’s not a short-term fight. I deleted my discord a Chinese Tencent’s vessel and a product that makes no money but burns money for the sake of gathering data. My Instagram, my Meta account thus my FB too, my WhatsApp, every app that was there just to gather my data or exploit me now or in the future.

    I do everything to keep off being fingerprinted. I use platforms that use more and more end-to-end encryption like Matrix. Or at worst Telegram which is not end to end but the best of the worst since my relatives still use it.

    Just because you don’t see it yet, doesn’t mean that a movement against anti-consumer platforms like reddit don’t exist. I inform my mom about it, I inform my relatives and friends about it. I move friends and friends move me to safer for the future to use platforms and de-centralized.

    A battle may be short, but the war is long.

    • Hyperi0n@lemmy.film
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      11 months ago

      Discord isn’t owned or majority controlled by tencent at all. That’s antivax level paranoia.

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          You just claimed that out of your ass again. There isn’t a single source that says tencent has a majority stake from their investment with Discord Inc.

          Not even the links you provided state what you are claiming.

          Tencent owns a majority stake in GGG.

          Tencent has only funded Discord for $158 million. Less than 1/3 of the total funding($500 million) it has received and well below the $15 billion the company is valued at.

          Either you don’t know how investments and shares work, you’re bad at math or both.

          Is most likely that tencent has a 10-15% stake in Discord.

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            Tencent has only funded 158 million […] that’s only 1/3 of the shares

            and that’s not a majority of the shares? Are you stupid or you’re pretending to be?

            Because so far you’ve only insulted me but now it’s time for me to insult you. You firstly clearly don’t know how to make a discussion work without insulting your counterparty, and secondly don’t know in english the difference between “THE majority” and “A majority”.

            You talk like a classic 9gagger who only knows how to talk with insults and misinformation and with pure arrogance. 1/3 is a majority of the shares. That’s how it works in business. 1/3 is a big number to take big decisions and make vetos and be on the table.

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              1/3 is not the majority. Majority of share has to be 50% and more. Usually majority is kept by the company and other shares are promised.

              Investing doesn’t gauentee stakeholdership. You are making nothing but conspitorial assumptions.

              Again, you have little grasp on economics, buisness, math and stakeholders.

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                I didn’t say THE majority. You continue to change my words. I said A majority. There can be multiple majorities in a community in relation to something else. And in the business world when you say 1/3 of shares is owned by X entity, that IS a majority. Because the rest is most likely 1 million other people/entities with no power, some are VC, some are CEO, some are other seeders.

                I understand you may not know much about the business world. It’s not bad not knowing things. And stop insulting people for not knowing something. Shaming people for lack of knowledge is just such a loser mentality. It’s like sucking your own cock.

                And at last you answered without direct insults, but you still gave me a “you have a little grasp of business economics and maths” which is ironical.

                1/3 is a big portion to own from a company. I’m in the business world, I’m also been a trader for years now, we also do discussions on our company’s surge meetings about IPOs and I have friends who’ve been bank CEOs or still are. Believe me. 1/3 is a big portion to own from a company. You own

                1/3 of the decisions in a sense that the company does. You have huge voting power and rights. Stop pretending to be blind for the sake of proving yourself right.

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            11 months ago

            Depending on when that funding came in and how the stocks got priced they could be majority shareholders, the founders of the company I work for own over 50% together although they’ve gotten way more funding from external investors than they’ve put in themselves

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    Nobody cares though. The reddit administration has dethroned their own site, it will never gain that back. They’re done, even if the site hangs around like a bad smell for a few more years.