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SimpleX Chat is an instant messenger that is decentralized and doesn’t depend on any unique identifiers such as phone numbers or usernames. Users of SimpleX Chat can scan a QR code or click an invite link to participate in group conversations.
-privacyguides.org
It’s clearly proving to be the most innovative technology when it comes to decentralized communication, in my opinion.
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Never tried it. But I use Element, which is based on the Matrix protocol.
With SimpleX each server is replacable/fungible
Isn’t matrix encryption beta? I remembered element always warns about that
I don’t think so.
Simple answer to the question so far as I can see: in order to connect with someone, you have to video conference with them and show them a code. So the anonymity is only as anonymous as the video conference you use to do that. All of the benefits it claims are merely an illusion.
Just send them the code. It’s okay if the channel over which they the receive the code is insecure
In F-Droid, after disabling all anti-features, SimpleX still is listed. Signal never will be due to connecting to GCM or Firebase. Molly is an improvement for Signal but not for untrackable privacy like SimpleX from using a different ID with each individual SimpleX contact.
I hoped Molly leaved the sms feature, that is the only thing I can use as a bait for let my friends switch to signal.
No, because SMS code was removed from Signal, I believe Molly would have to fork the code if they try to put it back in.
Not to mention, SMS was removed because it’s inherently insecure at every level. Keeping it would mean there’d be an insecure side channel into the protocol. While it’s a useful onboarding mechanism, it can also be abused — and was. So eventually it got removed to prefer privacy and security over convenience.
I’d definitely use it if my friends were using it. Sadly, I can’t even get them to use signal.
Find better friends. I say that but my friends decided to leave Facebook Messenger group chat… for Instagram. Now they use both.
Same… Sigh…
I don’t need people to be hyper-privacy minded. But just a little bit at least. I’m not expecting everybody to self host a matrix server and use element and run self hosted services on their own RPI.
But just not pick one of the worst ones?
I don’t trust for profit venture capital funding, if you want to see where it ends up just Look at how telegram or wickr transitions from being “open” and free to getting stripped of features only to have them become paid only and the wickr sold off to Amazon and ended all non business support…the business model for making a profit off chat applications is bad for users.
Also now that signal supports usernames I have no reason to use anything else even for people I wouldn’t want having my real number.
I would use it, if there were unified push support.
What is that and why does it matter?
unified push works as a stand in for gms on devices without it. it runs in the background & receive the wakeup pings for the apps (in this case simplex) so you only need one websocket open instead of a different background service for each app. hugely reduces battery use.
Does that work without google services? I thought this was why signal said they wouldn’t remove gapps depends, and all privacy apps do pull instead of push?
Jami has that.
Also Molly and Mercurygram and most of the Matrix messengers
Jami is a bloated insecure mess. It is getting better but I would not use it
Are chats synced with the mobile and desktop clients?
I liked the fact that it is really easy to self-host.
I tried it with friends on discord and in 10min I had a vps with a server running.
Did you use an install script that you found online or did you set it up yourself?
Running out of names for apps? I’ll just borrow from Herpes Simplex… seems catchy.
HERPES would be an AMAZING messaging app, since a estimated 60-95% of adults have it already… So very catchy!
Hey man, do you have herpes? Try it out. It is really easy to get one.
I’m not saying it necessarily is a good name but simplex is just a Latin word that’s used in many contexts. I for one would have never thought of Herpes here
@SolarPunker@slrpnk.net I’ve not heard of anyone who does “not like” it? Many don’t know about it maybe. I can’t think of anything I’ve seen against it as it ticks most of the boxes for excellent privacy and has been very usable for me.
Me, my friends, and family are using it
Aaand… Everyone is hating it, tbh 🤣
The notifications are unreliable and at the same time it drains 20% of the battery
Waiting for fixes, also want to setup my own relay
Does it have forward/future security?
¹ Repudiation in SimpleX Chat will include client-server protocol from v5.7 or v5.8. Currently it is implemented but not enabled yet, as its support requires releasing the relay protocol that breaks backward compatibility.
² Post-quantum cryptography is available in beta version, as opt-in only for direct conversations. See below how it will be rolled-out further.
Some columns are marked with a yellow checkmark:
- when messages are padded, but not to a fixed size.
- when repudiation does not include client-server connection. In case of Cwtch it appears that the presence of cryptographic signatures compromises repudiation (deniability), but it needs to be clarified.
- when 2-factor key exchange is optional (via security code verification).
- when post-quantum cryptography is only added to the initial key agreement and does not protect break-in recovery.
Because Signal is great.
It’s really not. Requires phone number and is centralized
i don’t know in what world you’re living, but in this world where people think you’re a pain in the ass for refusing to install WhatsApp when everyone is using it for official communication (work + organizations); Signal is great.
What are you talking about? Your comment isn’t relevant at all. Next time read more carefully
it is relevant.
requiring phone number and being centralized doesn’t make Signal “not great” in a world where a great majority of people use WhatsApp + read the last comment again but more carefully ;)
signal is a great alternative to a WhatsApp world. Simplex or Session has no chance with the general public
Oh youre right I was completely wrong
my bad, i should have worded it clearer :/
went up and edited it
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SimpleX is great but not ready for prime time.
I use it as a copy paste buffer on my different devices. I run into issues with sending media sometimes.
Adding people at a distance is a huge pain in the ass with long codes, that needs a solution before the app can be used by normal people.
Optional usernames would be nice
My friends barely want to use Signal. There’s no chance they’re using something else.
