Sorry if this is slightly off topic, I searched for communities about tech support on here and couldn’t find anything that wasn’t dead in the water. Basically I want to use WPA3 on my Network, however my Windows partition doesn’t support WPA3 for some reason. I only keep that piece of trash around for school work. My Fedora Linux partition can use WPA3 just fine so I assume this is a driver issue. Is there any way to use Linux WiFi drivers on Windows?
(inb4 how the turntables)
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It’s so ironic. Over the last few decades you could find millions of examples of the opposite question being asked.
Update the drivers on windows and see if the latest version supports it
Or
Install WSL or a VM and pass the device through to linux, let the kernel find it and activate the drivers, configure the network, then set up routes to share that connection with the host.
This, pass through to VM and share with host
Run windows as a vm on your Linux machine.
For some the only way this would work for many games would be having a dedicated second GPU for passthrough to the VM.
OP is asking for school/work purposes.
This
As a workaround which does not solve your specific question, and assuming you have control over the WiFi network and the router would have to support it — set one network band on WPA3, and a different network band on WPA2. Then in Linux, connect to the WPA3 band and on windows connect to the WPA2 band.
May I ask what school work requires the use of Windows? Adobe creative cloud or something?
If it’s a case of needing ad-hoc WiFi from Windows, an Android phone tethered over USB will act as a WiFi adapter of sorts.
Not sure why you got down voted, this is what I’m currently doing to work around it
I feel like this is a weird place to put this. However, since you asked, why can’t you run Windows in a VM?
I don’t use Reddit and like I said in the OP most of what I found on Lemmy relating to tech help were dead (no posts in over 10 months). Can’t use a VM due to lockdown browser.
Lockdown Browser is rated Platinum on WineHQ. I am not telling you to use Wine, though. https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=42004
That’s not going to work
Probably you are right but I was shocked someone got the app to launch at all
Fair enough
Nope, drivers are platform-specific.
Well this sucks. I have no idea what to do then lol
If you need to use windows because of a software issue, not a hardware issue, you’re probably best off running windows in a VM.
That way your linux install is making the WPA3 connection, and as far as the Windows install is concerned, it’s on a wired lan.
This has the added benefit of not having to reboot, you just always start linux and turn the windows VM on and off as required.Unfortunately its due to Lockdown browser which doesn’t allow virtualization no matter how obfuscated I try to make it.
A lockdown browser?
I do see valid use cases for pc in a test-exam-facility (meaning 80 pc without personal login) or pc in kiosk mode.
I have the same problem at my school, but thankfully, the school library has laptops I can borrow with the lockdown browser installed. It isn’t ideal, but is there a similar arrangement you could make?
They only allow certain students in specific programs to borrow and I dont fit the criteria. Its a Really shitty situation.
Refuse to use it or if you aren’t that bold refuse to run it on your own hardware.
Seriously though, it is documented malware
I could do this if I wanted to get kicked out of college and lose 5k tuition
Have you talked to your professor? You could always explain that the use of Lockdown browser is unjust. Also you can find professors that don’t require it.
I do have professors that dont require it, but I also have professors that have a stick somewhere it doesn’t belong and just expect the computer to teach us everything. I understand where youre coming from though
TIL about Lockdown Browser
What a terrible day to have eyes
Do you need the Windows partition for something specific? I used to dual-boot because I needed Windows for a previous job but have been Linux-only for years
Lockdown browser (government sponsored spyware)
I don’t know if this is possible or even advisable, but theoretically maybe the NIC could be hardware passed through to a linux VM, and then configure the host to use the guest VM as a gateway? It’d be kind of a nuts solution but it’d get points for creativity. Guest VM takes hardware control of the NIC and the host connects to the VM like it’s a separate device on the same network.
Something like the question posed here
You’d have to solve a few separate problems that might not be worth it, unfortunately I don’t have these answers:
- Hardware passthrough to the guest (does it require any special drivers on windows/is this idea already dead in the water?)
- How to configure VM networking properly so that the host can use the connection (is it enough to configure the connection as bridged?)
- Performance
I don’t know if this is possible or even advisable, but theoretically maybe the NIC could be hardware passed through to a linux VM, and then configure the host to use the guest VM as a gateway?
i don’t know about advisable, but i know it works because i do this.
intel won’t allow you to get wifi 6 speeds in ap mode with their linux driver; so i created a windows vm with pci passthrough to use the windows driver to get wifi 6 speeds. it passes along the connection via dns & ip masquerade to the soft router (also a vm) via kvm/qemu based software defined networking; so technically the connections from my laptop & smartphones go through 2 different networks before making it to my isp.
It’d be kind of a nuts solution but it’d get points for creativity. Guest VM takes hardware control of the NIC and the host connects to the VM like it’s a separate device on the same network.
that’s how my software router works and i always thought of it as hacky; this is the first time i’ve heard/thought otherwise.
what version of windows? what wireless adapter?
Win 11, Something like Intel® Wireless-AC 6000. I dont remember if its 6258 or something like that, I just know its let’s than 9000 which is the minimum Intel requires for wpa3 for whatever reason. I can find the exact model # tomorrow if youre interested
I see.
There is no way to use wpa3 in windows with that wireless adapter.
Some of the answers provided itt will work:
running a vm hosted on windows with hardware passthrough and some simple operating system which does support wpa3 on that adapter bridged to your windows installation.
Running windows in a vm for lockdown browser has worked for me in the past. Try it and see. I used qemu.
Since you talked about it being your network and not some other person or institutions, you could always run two wireless networks, one supporting wpa3 and one supporting wpa2.
I do that everywhere for 2.5/5g so older devices can still connect to the wireless. If youre worried about a wpa3 thing connecting to the wpa2 network you can set them up with different passwords.
Is there a specific benefit of wpa3 you’re trying to get?
E: you could use a sbc that supports wpa3 and has an Ethernet port as some kind of mutant firewall/gateway like you do when tethering your phone, but that’s kinda silly…
E2: laptop or desktop? If laptop, what specific model? Often the wireless cards in laptops are replaceable and you could always put one in that has wpa3 in both Linux and windows.
Ideally I want to use wpa3 as its the latest standard and all of my devices (except windows) are able to use it. I left the model number in the other response you left :P
Hey, post the model of your laptop and I’ll point you at a replacement wireless card that can do what you want.
Its a “Sager N870HK”
If this is your laptop then it uses an “a” keyed card like this one for $30, which is listed as supporting wpa3 in windows according to intel.
Awesome, Thanks
Are the Wi-Fi drivers on windows up to date?
yes.
Unlikely. While in theory someone could create a compatibility layer, it would be quite a challenge, as obviously, kernel modules are very closely tied to the specific kernel. I did some web searches, and only found the same few dead projects (that didn’t completely solve this issue anyway) that you found, and other forum posts that offer little encouragement.
Make sure you have the latest version of Windows 10 or 11, and the latest drivers for your network hardware. If you do, then there’s probably not much you can do about this.
Can you downgrade the network to older standard?
It would seem that there isn’t easy way to do it on windows. You would need to RE and write the drivers yourself.
It is possible if you crosscompile the drivers for Windows. But switch to Fedora, it’s not hard.
You cannot cross-compile Linux kernel drivers for Windows. The API is completely different (and I kinda doubt anyone has made a compatibility layer like ndiswrapper).
Besides that, you won’t be able to get your drivers signed for windows to accept them, so it’s basically futile anyway
for school work.
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Uh, ok I guess
Have some commas, my man: ,
Find me an Intel driver for a pre 9000 series laptop adaptor that supports wpa3 for windows and we can talk about “keeping it up to date” :)
