• Zagorath@aussie.zone
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          2 months ago

          I’m struggling to understand what’s going on here, even if I click up to view context. If we’re talking “two republican parties” with a lower case R, I’d think that would be Greens and (some of) Labor.

          If we’re talking about analogies to American politics, surely that would be LNP, One Nation, and United Australia Party, but the latter has just 1 Senator and zero state representatives, so maybe we’re ignoring it to get to 2 Republican parties. Or maybe they meant Liberal and National as two parties?

          Tagging @stepchook@mastodon.au, your interlocutor, for visibility.

          • ⸻ Ban DHMO 🇦🇺 ⸻@aussie.zoneM
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            2 months ago

            No, @Zagorath@aussie.zone did some analysis a while ago and found that Labor were overrepresented in parliament based on first preferences nationally, ignoring the electoral boundaries. The Greens, One Nation and various independents would have more representation in parliament if we didn’t use localities to determine the makeup of parliament

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              2 months ago

              That’s true.

              The Greens proportionally deserve 18.4 seats, but have only 4.

              Labor deserves 48.9 seats but has 68.

              LNP deserves 53.6, but has 58.

              One Nation deserves 7.4, has 0.

              It’s actually a very easy calculation to do yourself. Literally just 150 × percentage 1st preference votes. Obviously it’s not perfect, because if you change the voting system you also change how parties campaign, which changes how the votes turn out. But it’s a good rough idea.

              But uhh…I’m not really sure how this is relevant to this thread.

              • ⸻ Ban DHMO 🇦🇺 ⸻@aussie.zoneM
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                2 months ago

                But uhh…I’m not really sure how this is relevant to this thread.

                Idk I was interpreting their comment as saying that Labor aren’t very popular which is true at least in terms of first preferences

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              @unionagainstdhmo
              I’m not about to vote liberal, but feel disappointed by some Labor decisions. The anti-protest law in particular seem to have bipartisan support despite democratic resistance. Protests over freedom of association were once the backbone of union membership and strength.

          • ⸻ Ban DHMO 🇦🇺 ⸻@aussie.zoneM
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            2 months ago

            Riiiiiight I thought you meant in terms of politics and my response about the Greens was being sarcastic. Though the Greens and LNP get dragged into culture wars alot easier than Labor