• Wave@lemmy.ml
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      3 months ago

      The point was not the amount of money they are making, the point is that regardless you are being sold for profit. Any platform that is ad-driven should be avoided if you want any form of privacy.

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      Discord is one of the worst company in term of privacy, they sell all of your datas, messages… First to make profit and then send it to the Chinese government. Thx to offer to me 10MB 😁

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        3 months ago

        Why exactly do you believe the Chinese government wants the messages of non-Chinese citizens? Because Discord is blocked in China proper.

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          3 months ago

          They want people datas as much as US wants them to do mass surveillance. Surveillance is power and all govs wants power

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            Power to do what, exactly? It’s not like China is going to get non-citizens extradited from their home country to punish them for saying bad things about the CPC. Believing in vague generalities doesn’t help anyone, you’ve got to be specific.

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              You should know that in this world most of the governments want to extand their “power” (in fact it’s the good world), by knowing all the stuffs that are happening in the world they gain some superior knowledge. Why do states are willing to do mass surveillance, to use security cameras, etc… It’s not to have more “citizens” but to gain more power

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                Yes, but as a specific exercise, the US government wants to spy on US citizens because if gives them the power to arrest you. You could be committing crimes right now and not realize it, but if you ever become a person of interest they will use them against you.

                Of what use is specific data from specific nationals to a foreign government? They don’t have anywhere near the same level of power over your life as your home government does, unless you’re a defense contractor or a government official or something, all of that information is just fluff to them.

                And not for nothing, but the original conversation was about Discord, which is partially owned by Tencent but partial ownership by a private Chinese firm does not give the Chinese government any kind of special control over the platform.

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                  No no no, mass surveillance or global surveillance means a surveillance at the world scale meaning that all the people from everywhere would be watched. They just want to gain datas about everyone, to one day maybe use it. Cover leaks, cover several things… For sure today you will not be under the control of a foreign gov but tomorrow if they need to they could track you to achieve their goals.

                  With the case of Discord, you probably should know that in China the big companies are really related to the Chinese gov. Take the case of Tencent and search online for share owned by the gov. That’s all. Datas trough Discord are not safe at all.