Thought this might interest some Lemmy folks.
That’s not a dumbphone. It has email, a camera, an e-reader and , looks like, a few other apps.
Mobile phones in the era before smartphones had cameras, email clients, games, music players, and even web browsers. They just weren’t very good at those functions and their core feature was being a phone for voice calls. Texting was barely a feature on some of them (the first camera phone in the United States, the Sanyo SCP-5300, didn’t have a two way text messaging client - the user had to go to a website on the phone to send texts, which was inconvenient even on a 1xRTT 3G connection.)
The e-ink phone seems closer to a dumbphone than a smartphone, IMO, largely because it lacks access to an app store.
Source: I sold mobile phones before smartphones and during the early smartphone years (BlackBerry and Palm Treo, for example.)
Edit: calling it a feature phone instead of a dumb phone might be more accurate.
SCP-5300 😮
I disagree. A dumbphone (in my opinion) is a phone that does everything you need and nothing you don’t, and is distraction-free. And especially one that DOES NOT run Android. Email is unfortunately essential in the modern age.
But you do you, fam.
While I get your opinion, these things have definitions. Here’s a super simple version:
- A dumb phone does not connect to the internet. Its a phone. Just a dumb device.
- A feature phone is what you’re referring to here, where it may connect to the internet, but isn’t part of some larger ecosystem and is certainly not an app-first approach. Its a phone first, ancillary features are a bonus.
- Smartphones are your android and iOS devices, which connect to the internet, is part of a large ecosystem of applications, is an internet first oriented device, etc.
So yes, this is a feature phone from what I’ve read of the translation.
Then I can’t message anyone since people use messaging clients like signal and not actual texts
Which is why dumb phones and feature phones aren’t common anymore, and the people choosing them are specifically choosing it to avoid being available via WhatsApp/Signal/Slack/Discord/Teams/whatever else.
My FIL for example has a clamshell feature phone, because he doesn’t want to be reached except by phone or SMS. He doesn’t want to read email or get messages on his phone, he wants to restrict that to when he’s in front of his computer.
So yes, you would not be able to use messaging clients on a dumb phone, that’s the idea behind their use today.
I remember sending a Facebook message on my feature phone. I had to type with the num pad and it took minutes to load the page, but it I was successful.
I think people are forgetting that feature phones were connected to the internet back in the day
A dumb phone and a feature phone are not the same thing, and a feature phone may connect to the internet.
And who decided these definitions, and what makes them an authority?
Several decades of phone technology as it developed…
Edit: and why are you just down voting everyone replying providing you with info?
Several decades of phone technology as it developed…
…so you just made it up then.
why are you just down voting everyone replying providing you with info?
No one has done that. The only comments I’m downvoting are the ones spreading disinformation.
…so you just made it up then.
No, the phone industry made up these terms.
No one has done that. The only comments I’m downvoting are the ones spreading disinformation.
So how I read that is “Anything that isn’t what I want it to say is disinformation”.
Well, enjoy your day buddy, my participation in this thread is over. Its a neat feature phone, and that’s where I’ll be leaving that.
the phone industry made up these terms.
Except you can’t find any citations, so I’m pretty sure ya did.
So how I read that is “Anything that isn’t what I want it to say is disinformation”.
Very unsurprisingly, you’re reading it wrong. And you know it.
my participation in this thread is over
Excellent, glad to hear it!
The Wikipedia page for Feature Phone looks to have been started in 2011.
The iPhone was introduced in 2007 and popularized Smart Phones to a point that Feature Phone grew in use enough to warrant a Wikipedia entry a few years later.
You better head over to Wikipedia to fix the misinformation issue they have had for over a decade now.
The Wikipedia page for Feature Phone looks to have been started in 2011.
Should that mean something to me?
You better head over to Wikipedia to fix the misinformation issue they have had for over a decade now.
Did I say the phrase “feature phone” was misinformation? The fact that it exists or the date it came into existence disproves nothing…
Since we’re just making up definitions, a dumb phone is now a type of salad.
I need to get more dumb phones in my diet.
Just because we have different interpretations doesn’t mean we’re “making up definitions”. Who made you the definitive authority?
We don’t have different interpretations. You are just misrepresenting the definition. That’s not what a dumb phone is.
Prove me wrong. Go ahead. I’ll wait.
That’s a feature phone.
Man when’s the last time you heard that one?
Feature phones typically have more “features” than dumbphones, hence the name. They almost always run Android as well which means they build in all sorts of telemetry and dependencies.
I consider anything that even touches data (even 3gp or email) and can play MP3s a feature phone. Even if this thing didnt play MP3’s, the fact it can read ebooks I’d say makes it one.
Is 3gp still a thing?
You’re free to disagree. I’m not the one telling others they’re wrong for having a different perspective.
Is 3gp still a thing?
Never heard of it, did you mean 3G?
No, early mobile internet. Predated the smart phone boom.
Why is this tagged english if it’s a polish article?
I didn’t realize there was a language option. I tried changing it to Polish but it said it’s not allowed. It’s a Polish brand and I haven’t seen any coverage at all in English.
Sorry.
E: added Firefox translation below
May be client-dependent I guess.
Because Lemmy’s language tools are half-baked and not intuitive, so nobody uses them properly. Not to mention limited app support.
English Firefox translation:
I had in my hand Polish phone Mudita Kompakt with E-Ink screen [IFA 2024]
Although I have been in the IFA fair in Berlin 5 times, this year it happened for the first time that I was on them alone (that was also Krzysiek, but we passed on dates). It required another organization from me, and as a result, I am starting to create relationships only now. I have a real bomb to start! This is the first impression of commuting with the prototype Polish phone Mudita Kompakt.
Mudita is a Polish company founded by Michał Kiciński, who was a co-founder of CD Project. At the beginning of its existence, Mudita already had a phone with a candybar enclosure. Unfortunately, it is impossible to talk about commercial success here and it involves several defects that the device had. Since then, the company has launched watches, alarm clocks, mindfulness cards and even a collection of comfortable clothes made of natural materials.
This company that focuses on well-being, their latest phone is something that can be a really interesting alternative to a world full of hustle and bustle, stimuli, stress and constant notifications, and other distractors.
I and Mateusz wrote about the idea of this anti-smartphone itself. There is no need to translate the whole concept. However, it is worth recalling that this is a device for minimalists who want to escape from the hustle and bustle of a million notifications that come to color smartphones every day.
Let’s start from the beginning. I learned about the fact that Mudita is going to IFA 2024 in Berlin from the post to the company’s IG. Unfortunately, for two days I did not find a company stand. On the last day of my presence at the fair, 4 hours before leaving for the airport, I went with Michał from Chip.pl to say goodbye to the fair. However, I decided to find the stand where Mudita Kompakt will be exhibited.
It wasn’t that easy. Firstly, it was extremely small and did not appear on the map of IFA stands, secondly, Mudita exhibited under the banner of its distributor Tradesnest, and thirdly during the fair, the stand was moved to a completely different hall. However, Cyfranek came to my aid, who quickly responded to the message and very precisely described it and where to find the stand!
Mudita Kompakt in the prototype version works quite smoothly. In principle, all functions were available here. Together with the possibility of SMS communication and camera camera.
The software of this model is responsive and resembles other devices that work using the E-Ink screen. The main screen presents information about the battery status, network coverage, date and time. At the bottom we see the app of the phone and messages and the More tab with additional applications.
In the prototype device there were six of them: e-book reader, voice recorder, calculator, camera/camera and meditations. They all worked quite smoothly. On one of the videos I recorded, you can see that the camera app did not turn on it after clicking it. However, I think it’s just a miss click (I had two busy hands), because the next time it worked out without a problem. All the applications worked without problems. One thing to complain about is the long loading of books – but I put it on the canvas that it is still a prototype.
The construction of the device was also quite good. It is completely plastic, but nothing creaked here and did not creak. The casing was compact and well folded. An interesting fact here is the slider on the side of the case, similar to the one from the iPhone, which completely cuts off the GSM module, WiFi, Bluetooth and microphone and camera.
The equipment made a really great impression on me. This is one of the devices that we are very much waiting for in the editorial office!
I know that this is only a prototype and confident, the manufacturer will present the Compact model, which will be more advanced in terms of software. But it is necessary to introduce a few additional applications:
the audio player LED flashlight (since it is already in the device) A communicator such as a secure Signal or the popular Whatsapp The calendar the list to-do, The timer/pomodoro
I would also like to see here the applications of popular e-book and audiobooks websites such as Legimi or Audible/Audoteka. I also have a note about highlighting, it’s probably too late for such a change. However, a sensational feature would be the ability to change the illumination temperature – as in e-ink readers.
The specification Dimensions 128 x 70 x 12.6 mm The Display E-Ink, 4.3 inch, 800 x 480 pixels The material Polycarbonate with 7% fiberglass content The Processor MediaTek MT6761V/WBA The system Our own PureOS system The Memory 32 GB built-in memory The battery 3300 mAh LiPo The camera 8 MP with LED lamp dual tone Audio and the Audio High quality ACC speaker, 3.5 mm headphone port Slots Hybrid SIM slot + Micro SD card or two SIM The Resilience The IP54 standard The connectivity 2G, 3G, 4G, LTE, VoLTE, VoWiFi, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth 5.x, NFC Loading USB C (included cables) and wireless
Fun fact: While mudita is Pali for “vicarious joy”, it’s also Spanish for “little mute girl”.
If this gets decent standby battery life on 4g I would seriously consider it as my secondary phone
I don’t speak polish, but from the photos it looks like a nice concept.
I love the thicc boio!
(Ngl, would have loved a thinn boyo like this one too)
