Thought this might interest some Lemmy folks.

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    I disagree. A dumbphone (in my opinion) is a phone that does everything you need and nothing you don’t, and is distraction-free. And especially one that DOES NOT run Android. Email is unfortunately essential in the modern age.

    But you do you, fam.

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      While I get your opinion, these things have definitions. Here’s a super simple version:

      • A dumb phone does not connect to the internet. Its a phone. Just a dumb device.
      • A feature phone is what you’re referring to here, where it may connect to the internet, but isn’t part of some larger ecosystem and is certainly not an app-first approach. Its a phone first, ancillary features are a bonus.
      • Smartphones are your android and iOS devices, which connect to the internet, is part of a large ecosystem of applications, is an internet first oriented device, etc.

      So yes, this is a feature phone from what I’ve read of the translation.

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        Then I can’t message anyone since people use messaging clients like signal and not actual texts

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          Which is why dumb phones and feature phones aren’t common anymore, and the people choosing them are specifically choosing it to avoid being available via WhatsApp/Signal/Slack/Discord/Teams/whatever else.

          My FIL for example has a clamshell feature phone, because he doesn’t want to be reached except by phone or SMS. He doesn’t want to read email or get messages on his phone, he wants to restrict that to when he’s in front of his computer.

          So yes, you would not be able to use messaging clients on a dumb phone, that’s the idea behind their use today.

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            I remember sending a Facebook message on my feature phone. I had to type with the num pad and it took minutes to load the page, but it I was successful.

            I think people are forgetting that feature phones were connected to the internet back in the day

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          Several decades of phone technology as it developed…

          Edit: and why are you just down voting everyone replying providing you with info?

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            Several decades of phone technology as it developed…

            …so you just made it up then.

            why are you just down voting everyone replying providing you with info?

            No one has done that. The only comments I’m downvoting are the ones spreading disinformation.

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              …so you just made it up then.

              No, the phone industry made up these terms.

              No one has done that. The only comments I’m downvoting are the ones spreading disinformation.

              So how I read that is “Anything that isn’t what I want it to say is disinformation”.

              Well, enjoy your day buddy, my participation in this thread is over. Its a neat feature phone, and that’s where I’ll be leaving that.

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                the phone industry made up these terms.

                Except you can’t find any citations, so I’m pretty sure ya did.

                So how I read that is “Anything that isn’t what I want it to say is disinformation”.

                Very unsurprisingly, you’re reading it wrong. And you know it.

                my participation in this thread is over

                Excellent, glad to hear it!

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              The Wikipedia page for Feature Phone looks to have been started in 2011.

              The iPhone was introduced in 2007 and popularized Smart Phones to a point that Feature Phone grew in use enough to warrant a Wikipedia entry a few years later.

              You better head over to Wikipedia to fix the misinformation issue they have had for over a decade now.

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                The Wikipedia page for Feature Phone looks to have been started in 2011.

                Should that mean something to me?

                You better head over to Wikipedia to fix the misinformation issue they have had for over a decade now.

                Did I say the phrase “feature phone” was misinformation? The fact that it exists or the date it came into existence disproves nothing…

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        Feature phones typically have more “features” than dumbphones, hence the name. They almost always run Android as well which means they build in all sorts of telemetry and dependencies.

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          I consider anything that even touches data (even 3gp or email) and can play MP3s a feature phone. Even if this thing didnt play MP3’s, the fact it can read ebooks I’d say makes it one.

          Is 3gp still a thing?

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            You’re free to disagree. I’m not the one telling others they’re wrong for having a different perspective.

            Is 3gp still a thing?

            Never heard of it, did you mean 3G?