• Dessalines@lemmy.mlOP
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      1 month ago

      And poverty eradication. And high speed rail. And smartphone and chip tech, and space program… kind of a long list.

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        1 month ago

        If only we dissolved all nation states and lived in communes that best reflect everyones individual values.

        Mine would have nukes, because I will never trust humanity, no matter how good things get.

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          It’s silly to act like individual values are some sacred, unassailable thing gifted to everyone’s soul by the heavens, rather than something that came from a combination of inborn human traits and memories*, i.e. they are something that is contingent, changing, and in no way above being questioned.

          It’s also silly to act like it makes sense to just have a blanket acceptance of something if it’s an “individual value” even though, when we look at the world, individual values can sometimes be extremely fucked up and we shouldn’t allow people who would enact those values to abuse with impunity.

          *“memories” is simplistic, but I don’t think it is catastrophically so.

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          Your commune would be super lucky if it had anything because small communes (especially isolated sects “never trusting humanity”) are not the best places to make even things like glasses, not to mention atomic weaponry.