And I’m being serious. I feel like there might be an argument there, I just don’t understand it. Can someone please “steelman” that argument for me?

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    The arguments against voting in the USA sound similar to the trolley problem

    Some people wouldnt choose to be the reason of the death of one person even if doing nothing causes the death of multiple people

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      Yeah but also they all die anyway. Nobody is “saved” in this situation. In fact, it’s way worse now.

      What’s going to happen in Gaza is going to be horrifying.

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      That just means you value your own ability to evade blame over the lives of real people.

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      This is very american - these Gaza supporters protest the suffering of people thousands of miles away and yet think it is okay to bring suffering to everyone in his/her own street

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        Almost like they are paying for the people suffering thousands of miles away?

        Do you have a brain by any chance?

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      Yes, this is how I felt. I would rather not choose to vote for the ‘lesser of two evils’ and pretend that’s good. It’s not just Gaza though, it’s corporatism, war profiteering, and terrible policy.

      I would rather see the system collapse and possibly die in the process than support another shitty government even if it’s the less shitty one.

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        That’s a horrible outlook, and I’m sorry you’ve been driven to that point. I understand, as I have been there before.

        Now that I’m older, I realize that pulling the lever is the right thing to do as much as it hurts. I don’t think letting apathy win and watching the government go full Fash was the correct choice, but I don’t blame you, or others who decided the same. The system isn’t going to collapse, though, it’s just going to get a lot shittier for awhile.