Seriously why? Discuss.online has horrible moderation and open-signups, and Lemm.ee isn’t very much better. If lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works were completely nuked to avoid the moderation headache or risks from two large open servers, why aren’t lemm.ee and discuss.online banned as well?

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    This is just my anecdotal experience as an outsider, but the volume of nonsense coming out of lemmy.world dwarfs anything coming out of any other server. Three separate times this week I have had groups of people from there aggressively telling me some kind of total gibberish. I thought about defederating rss.ponder.cat from them, just on general principle to encourage people to go elsewhere and improve the overall cultural quality of the network.

    I can’t speak to sh.itjust.works, to me they seem fine. lemm.ee I’ve never had an issue with. lemmy.world is just a nonstop fountain of drama and ridiculousness, though. Deliberately hosting and making a home base for UniversalMonk for months, for example, I will never understand.

    • 𝕯𝖎𝖕𝖘𝖍𝖎𝖙@lemm.eeOP
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      I mean lemm.ee literally hosts a conservative community, which on occasion features borderline transphobia and homophobia. Right-wing stuff ya know. discuss.online has wide open sign-ups and has regularly had spammers, trolls, and assholes come and go. They are a liability. As far as I can tell Lemmy hasn’t gotten substantially better moderation tools since those last two big defederations, so the issues with these servers and servers like them are still valid and apparent.

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        lemm.ee hosts a conservative community, which on occasion features borderline transphobia and homophobia.

        Hi, lemm.ee admin here, please be sure to report any cases of community moderators not following lemm.ee instance rules directly to admins. The “no bigotry” rule is a treated very seriously at lemm.ee, and our admins will always handle such cases very harshly. We have in the past had to shut down a few conservative-type communities over such things. Having said that, I am not aware of the current moderators of that community allowing, much less featuring, any kind of bigotry (in fact, a quick look over the mod log shows them actively removing bigotry, usually posted by users from outside lemm.ee).

        By the way, I know there are a lot of users on Lemmy who really enjoy starting defederation drama (I’ve lost count at this point of how many users like you I’ve seen), but is there really nothing better you could be doing on a Friday evening? Maybe go for a walk, spend time with some close ones, read a book, whatever. You are not gaining absolutely anything from what you are trying to do here.

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        I just know that users from lemmy.world post stupid stuff to me on a pretty regular basis. I’m not aware of any lack of moderation that means that the stupid stuff goes unchecked, except from lemmy.world, as well lemmy.ml, Hexbear, and the like. The flavor is different but the distastefulness is consistent.

        I saw the response from sunaurus, which matches my experience.