Americans are joining the Chinese social media app en masse to protest an imminent TikTok ban.
- American users have flocked to Chinese social media platform Xiaohongshu in defiance of security warnings.
- Chinese and American users have engaged in surprisingly friendly conversations about each other’s lives.
- The influx of American users could burden Xiaohongshu’s censorship mechanism, experts say.
Replacing one Chinese Spyware app with another. Lmao, it’s just so funny to me.
Because an American Spyware app is much better?
Both seem shit to me
You confused us by saying a race, like you’re spreading excuses for anti-libre software.
‘Replacing one spyware for another’ is clear.
I said a what now?!
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The fuck?
You remove my comment but leave the troll?
A race, like ethnicity, which reduced the clarity of your initial comment.
‘Replacing one spyware for another’ is more clear.
What does race have to do with anything?!
Exactly, the meaning is much more clear without it.
You know damn well they were referring to nationality rather than race.
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Throwing in the race card is something that wumao are instructed to do regularly.
The fact that, like you pointed out, you hadn’t said a single thing about race is a strong indicator that the person you’re replying to is a paid troll.
Btw “wumao” is literally “five dimes”, which refers to the “50 cent party” who are paid internet commentators with the goal to push CCP propaganda. The “50 cent” part refers to how much they get paid per comment.
Now I’m not saying this person definitely is a wumao, but my guess is that they are.
They are famously known for supporting software freedom. /s
It’s actually worse because the American spyware apps give our data to the government to prosecute us for abortions etc.
That’s always been my point. China can do less with my data than the UK or America.
Why not ban both if we are concerned about the harms of algorithmic content?
Think of the shareholders!
Well, the American one doesn’t have an incentive to turn its own people against its own government with propaganda. As is happening with Tiktok and pushing pro-CCP and anti-American content.
And even if the only concern was spying, it’s like saying “well a creep on the street snapped a nude photo of me through my windows, so I may as well take my own nudes and pass it around the neighbourhood.”
because no US social media has ever affected an election?
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You want to know how to turn an American against the US government? Tell them, without exaggeration, what their government is doing to them; and tell them, without exaggeration, what other governments do for their citizens.
It’s that simple. No lies needed. No american with an IQ above a glass of undrinkable tap water likes their government or thinks their country is worth anything.
Complete false dichotomy. This isn’t a “my government can beat up your government” squabble.
The reality is that ByteDance has offices for CCP officials in their buildings. The Chinese government has a direct line of influence on the people who work at that company. A government that has openly hostile relations with the West (not even just the USA).
This isn’t a discussion about whose government is better. It would be equally inappropriate for a US entity with direct control from the US gov to directly influence Chinese people via an algorithm to push propaganda. The Chinese firewall prevents such a thing from existing or having any significant impact, whereas the opposite isn’t true.
All of that non sequitur is great, but the fact is no foreign country needs to do anything to make Americans hate their government. Nothing. Except provide a platform that allows free speech.
That’s all Tiktok is.
No one was arguing about making Americans hate their government. The argument is about TikTok being a pro-CCP propaganda tool. That’s it.
You keep bringing it back to “hating America”, when that was never the point.
What you’re saying is actually a typical diversionary tactic that pro-CCP people use. Shift the target of the argument away from the CCP, exactly the way you did.
Please read the output of your LLMs if you’re going to use them, you said:
It’s simply not. It’s allowing Americans to speak freely on America without government interference.
Oh I’m sorry. You’re right. I shall read my LLMs more carefully. /s
Another way to look at it is that It’s allowing anyone to speak negatively about Western governments.
And the point I was making is that TikTok is pushing pro-CCP propaganda; regardless if it’s anti-American or not, but that’s the part you keep focusing on.
And everyone keeps going on about “censorship from the gov” but the reality is that I see tons of posts, videos, blogs, articles, reels, etc on US based social media that says all kinds of stuff about the US, Canadian, UK, European, etc, governments. It’s just so odd to me that Americans are so hyperfocused on “free speech” when I see all that stuff everywhere anyways. Half the time it’s literally videos FROM TikTok that are just reposted elsewhere.
The main difference is that on TikTok there’s a higher number of wack jobs that peddle garbage like flat earth, chem trails, anti vaxx, etc. The difference is that on Western social media that content usually comes with a disclaimer. The CCP is more than glad to allow that content because none of their citizens will see it. Chinese people can’t see content on TikTok, they have a segregated version with completely different content for Chinese users. If the CCP cared about freedom, there would be no segregation.
Where evidence?
There have been multiple studies that have demonstrated that pro-CCP content outweighs anti-CCP content by at least 3 to 1. Even on profiles that prefer anti-CCP content the pro content still gets suggested at a 3 to 1 ratio.
Surely you’d be willing to share those studies then? Because the only one I’ve seen was NCRI who didn’t make that claim and are hilariously biased.
No. I’m not doing research for you. Even if I did, we both know you’d either dismiss it or ignore it. I’m a nobody to you and you’re already biased against what I have to say.
We won’t see eye to eye on this. We simply won’t agree. It would just be a waste of my time.
I’m not asking you to do research. I’m asking you to show research you’ve presumably already done.
I don’t keep links to things I’ve read over the years. You really think I have a folder on my desktop labelled “CCP Propaganda Proof” with various docs and links?