OK so if you feel Lemmy has been trending towards hostility in the past weeks ppease here me out, interact in the comments but keep it civil.
Lemmy vs Reddit
We all had our reasons to move to Lemmy. What I remember clearly from the beginning of the summer was that we were all praising the tone. Over the years, Reddit has become increasingly toxic - most of all in the comment section. To me, that was what made Lemmy special. Even with less content, the general vobe was what made me come back every time.
clash of the clans
Due to the nature of the fediverse, we get to interact with people with different backgrounds and dofferent ideas. Potentially an incredibly enriching experience for everyone. Anti-defed lemmings defend staying federated with everyone for that precise reason, which I really get. But lately the vibe has turned sour. Every post that has the slightest political undertone becomes this big us-vs-them show. Please stop
discussion vs. shitshow
I am not arguing for stopping discussing our opinions. I also get the whole they don’t have downvotes thing. But can we please treat eachother with dignity, and when writing comments say ‘I believe’ or ‘in my opinion’ instead of ‘you all this or that’?
I think this is the only way forward if we want to prevent everyone from personally blocking a lot of instances in the furure.
I fully appreciate the desire for more civil discussion.
But please be aware that tone policing has been used as an offensive weapon against many marginalized groups: “We get that you want to fight for your rights, but could you please do that in the form of civil discourse?” That phrase is almost always heard when years of civil discourse lead nowhere.
I came here to say something similar, this “no politics” bullshit is such a privileged take.
Never mind that many of the largest communities on reddit had a similar policy, and it didn’t stop them being toxic cesspits, because it’s never about policing those who support the status quo, but only ever those who stand up to it.
What I observe is a dichotomy forcing people to choose between “no politics” and “politics everywhere and all the time”. It’s frankly like NSFW content: YouTube doesn’t allow NSFW because otherwise the majority of content would be of that nature. At least that was the popular reasoning.
Awareness of political issues is important, and also, please understand that people have a life outside of politics too. Very few people can endure receiving only political content 24/7.
‘no politics’ means someone is a coward at best.
So if I start a 3D printing related community and I make it a rule that there’s no politics you think I’m a coward? Fuck out of here
Except no one is talking about a 3d printing community here and you know it, so you’re clutching pearls at a strawman you made up in your own mind…
plus 3D printing has lots of obvious political issues…right to repair, copyright, patents, gun laws, etc etc
I see you don’t like people coming up with examples outside of what you’ve made up in your putrid little imagination. Oh well. I don’t give a fuck about your narrative sorry
I get what your are saying. Let me just offer some nuance. As I said in the post above, I think our diversity can be a huge strength. Discussing ideas and having an open environment to do so is something really good. I just think a lot of people come to these discussions just to speak, not to listen. Also, divisiveness and dogmatic political discourse is metastasizing over to all kinds of communities that were (in my view) created with no political intent.
So it’s becoming increasingly hard to get away from this toxicity without defederating or blocking a huge amount of instances, and I think that’s a shame. That’s all I’m trying to say.
I get ya. I’m also privileged enough that I used to be able to ignore politics unless it was really in my face, because most of it didn’t affect me directly.
But some people’s actual identities, bodies, their continued existence, is political - whether they like it or not.
So I’m sorry. We live in interesting times. Historical times. Some people feel we might be at the end of history. It’s going to get loud.
Your username is toxic and you’re complaining about toxicity and I just want to point that out
I’m sorry my username offends you.
Also, in another comment in this thread you say
If to you words hold no additional power how do the words of my username offend you/become toxic to you?
I’m holding a light to your hypocrisy, not asking for an explanation thanks
I thought I asked you a question, not the other way around. Anyway, maybe you just want to argue/hate on me. All fine.
If not, I would be interesting to hear how by your interpretation my username is toxic.
If I really have to explain to you how your name, which is centered around the fall guy for the toxic community we all previously left, is a toxic display, then I really can’t see any value in any conversation with you, in any light, at any hour, on any subject matter.
I think you’re an unimaginative boring boy who can’t come up with things on his own to create common ground woth other people, so you resorted to a “lowest common denominator” username in an attempt to be a cool kid.
It failed.
Thanks for so beautifully and eloquently illustrating the whole phenomenon that caused me to make this meme. Couldn’t have done it better myself if I tried.
The irony of you calling reddit a toxic community whilst behaving like this is not lost on me.