You’ll never be able to get a definition that covers your question. The world isn’t black and white. It’s gray and because of that a line has to be drawn and yes it would always be considered be arbitrary for some. But a line must be drawn none the less.
That said, as a parent of 5 kids, I’m more concerned for false positives. I’ve heard enough horror stories about parents getting arrested over completely innocent pics of their kids as toddlers or infants, that may have genitalia showing. Like them at 6 months old doing something silly in the tub, or what have you. I don’t trust a computer program that doesn’t understand context to accurately handle those kinds of photos. Frankly, parents shouldn’t be posting those pics on social media to begin with, but I digress. It sets a bad precedent.
My ex has called the cops on me more than a few times in our past, because she just didn’t like how I was doing things. After I remarried and moved in with my now wife, my ex called the cops and CPS on us for abusing our kids (we don’t - we just have reasonable rules). That was a fun one and ended up with me getting a lawyer and dragging her to court. The judge was not happy with her. Also, my neighbor called the cops on us a few months ago because one of my kids was having a temper tantrum, and then again because my two older kids (and some neighborhood friends) purposefully excluded her kids from whatever game they were playing. We had a talk with our kids about excluding others and why you shouldn’t do that, but between you and I, those kids are brats and bully a lot of other neighborhood kids.
That’s just a taste of crazy. It’s not out of the realm of possibility for someone to be batshit enough to call the cops over an innocent baby-in-the-bathtub picture (though like I said, parents shouldn’t be sharing that on social media anyway, but here we are).
I mean I’m not defending CSAM, just to be clear. I just disagree with any usage of AI that could turn somebody’s life upside down based on a false positive. Plus you also get idiots who report things they just don’t like.
Yeah, but who decides what content is disturbing? I mean there is CSAM, but the fact that it even exists shows that not everyone is disturbed by it.
You’ll never be able to get a definition that covers your question. The world isn’t black and white. It’s gray and because of that a line has to be drawn and yes it would always be considered be arbitrary for some. But a line must be drawn none the less.
Agreed 100%, a line absolutely should be drawn.
That said, as a parent of 5 kids, I’m more concerned for false positives. I’ve heard enough horror stories about parents getting arrested over completely innocent pics of their kids as toddlers or infants, that may have genitalia showing. Like them at 6 months old doing something silly in the tub, or what have you. I don’t trust a computer program that doesn’t understand context to accurately handle those kinds of photos. Frankly, parents shouldn’t be posting those pics on social media to begin with, but I digress. It sets a bad precedent.
There’s a vast gulf between automated moderation systems deleting posts and calling the cops on someone.
You would be shocked.
My ex has called the cops on me more than a few times in our past, because she just didn’t like how I was doing things. After I remarried and moved in with my now wife, my ex called the cops and CPS on us for abusing our kids (we don’t - we just have reasonable rules). That was a fun one and ended up with me getting a lawyer and dragging her to court. The judge was not happy with her. Also, my neighbor called the cops on us a few months ago because one of my kids was having a temper tantrum, and then again because my two older kids (and some neighborhood friends) purposefully excluded her kids from whatever game they were playing. We had a talk with our kids about excluding others and why you shouldn’t do that, but between you and I, those kids are brats and bully a lot of other neighborhood kids.
That’s just a taste of crazy. It’s not out of the realm of possibility for someone to be batshit enough to call the cops over an innocent baby-in-the-bathtub picture (though like I said, parents shouldn’t be sharing that on social media anyway, but here we are).
This is a fucking wild take
I mean I’m not defending CSAM, just to be clear. I just disagree with any usage of AI that could turn somebody’s life upside down based on a false positive. Plus you also get idiots who report things they just don’t like.