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- privacyguides@lemmy.one
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- Stop using the word ‘Google’ instead of saying ‘Search’. Take offense if anyone tells you to ‘Google’ something - fuck them!!!
- Set Firefox as your default - don’t keep ‘defaulting’ to chrome, or chromium based browsers (as this code mostly comes from Google).
- Be sure to become more acquainted with more platforms, keep shortcuts handy and use them when they have content…
- If you must use Youtube, use it signed out - find your channel and add it to an RSS reader. Avoid using the Youtube interface and avoid the algorithms. Search for any channels you watch on alternative platforms.
Firefox on mobile caters for extensions too. Not having ads or tracking on your phone is great. FF on both mobile and desktop is fantastic tbh.
Firefox Focus is also a lovely little mobile browser for random queries and such. It’s effectively always in private browsing mode; anytime you close it, it clears its cache.
I definitely use it more often than “regular” Firefox on mobile. I only really use regular Firefox if I need some sort of persistence or login.
Doesn’t have sponsorblock though unless you use nightly and make some tweaks
The upside if we all use the term Google, is that over time Google will lose their ability to enforce their trademark.
Ask me do I care, lol.
a) Linux, Firefox + uBlockOrigin + Enhancer for YouTube;
b) Android, Firefox + uBlock Origin + Video Background Play Fix;
c) I never ever use any account or login into the youtube. Playlists? Got favorites/bookmarks in browser :) Voting, comments? I don’t care. Native youtube android apk? Never. So, no tracking and stats for you and no dumb auto recomendations for me. Thanks.
P.S. oh, and all cookies are auto deleted on last tab close. Bye.
So, war with or strike me how? Close whole site or put everything under paywall and die? Hahaha
Will that android technique work on IOS too?
Edit: nvm Apple blocks Firefox extensions, curse you Apple.
Uninstall Chrome.
Install Firefox.
Stop letting Google dictate web standards and accept that they plan on removing adblocking from Chrome.
Firefox is the last widely available, cross-platform browser that isn’t based on Chromium. The only other is Safari for macOS/iOS which is not generally cross-platform.
- Firefox uses Gecko/Quantum
- Safari uses WebKit
- Chrome/Chromium uses Blink
Drop any browsers that use Blink as the rendering engine, and yeah, it’s most of them.
Google has made it completely clear where they stand on this war, which is that they will remove your access to content if you don’t agree to see their ads.
Safari was mildly cross-platform… about 10 years ago. Then Apple realized they can’t fight that specific market share.
I’ve been on firefox since 2018 and I do not regret it, fuck monopolys, don’t let a single company to have control and manage the web as it pleases
I’ve been on Firefox since way back. I understand they’ve made a lot of missteps and I’m not going to defend some of their worst decisions, but they’re at the very least not an advertising company that wants to remove adblocks from how the web works.
I’m out of the loop here, what would you say are the missteps and bad decisions from Firefox?
I’m not OP, but a big one was breaking a fair number of extensions/add-ons with a major browser update. I forget the exact details, and am not privy to the technical arguments within Mozilla, but I can see how it is a huge turn off for users.
FireFox was also extremely resource intensive at one point.
And their mobile apps are stubbornly bad. There’s no reason not to implement a real tab bar, for example. Card view is terrible on tablet devices.
It just seems like there are a lot of little things they do with FireFox.
Still, it isn’t FireFox trying to end adblocking and start blacklisting people from using services with no actual alternative.
Alphabet needs to be broken up, as does Microsoft and Apple.
A few things come to mind:
The “Mr. Robot” promotion was pretty bad - they force installed an extension without user interaction. This is IMHO still the worst thing they’ve done.
Their finances could be seen as a little sketchy, at times, like executive pay vs. layoffs at the start of COVID. The fact that they’re hanging off the teat of Google (or maybe Microsoft, which ever search engine has the higher bid at the moment) could also be seen as a conflict of interest.
Some might criticise Mozilla for a lack of focus. While Firefox was getting stale they invested in Pocket, and VPNs and stuff.
It’s a thing of the past, but there was this whole thing about Brendan Eich …
Honestly most of these things seem pretty par for the course under capitalism.
While Firefox was getting stale they invested in Pocket, and VPNs and stuff.
At least those products could have given Mozille a source of income in the long term if they became popular enough. Money that could have gone towards keeping Firefox going.
What about email? Firfox have email. How will I be able to switch my android device away from Google?
I like to have alternative but they pretty much control everything on most devices I use.
Just because you can’t completely degooglize doesn’t mean there is no value in reducing their place in your life.
Degooglize what you can, step by step.
begun the adblock war has
This sounds reasonable. There is no free lunch.
Google made $7 billion from YouTube in 2021[1], might I remind you by running ads on other peoples’s content. Now of course Google does provide the platform for that content, but the point still remains.
Users and content creators are what make YouTube, not the other way around. Companies like Google need to careful not to let their pursuit of profit upset the good thing they have going for them.
I would like better ads. Not more personal ads. Just less intrusive ads for products relevant to the video I’m watching
It’s well within reason to fight it just like it’s within reason that users will find other ways. I don’t think it makes Google evil to try to stop people from blocking their ads, but this is the internet and people will always find another way around it.
Definitely feels like both sides of the Adblock battle are going to get more sophisticated.
Youtube: “Watch our ads or else”
Reddit: “Watch our ads or else”
Fediverse: “Else”
