• lectricleopard@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    When someone says its unfortunate the killing of Jews is central to the education about the Nazis, I dont raise an eyebrow, i raise both.

    Its almost like you’re trying to make the case that Jews could be Nazis without any sort of compartmentalization or cognitive dissonance. A real masterpiece of gaslighting.

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      4 months ago

      There were Nazi Jews during the time of Nazi Germany, and there still are today. It’s not the weird thing you’re making it out to be. Hating Jews was not, and still isn’t central to Nazi ideology. While it’s often presented like it’s the only thing they’re about.

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        4 months ago

        I dont think we’re talking about the same thing exactly, I think I agree with you in a lot of ways actually.

        However, the analogy with Trump would be to say that immigration isnt central to his policies. Is it the tariffs then that’ll MAGA? Is this how you start to try and convince a latinx person to vote for a Trump endorsed candidate?

        But to the topic at hand, why are you insisting to frame NAZIs in a less nationalistic light? Nationalism is certainly a feature of fascism. Are you trying to convince antisemitic people that Trump can hate jews and still be a bad choice for them? I am confused about you concerns and priorities.

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          There’s both similarities and differences, both Trumpism and nazis decided on several other groups as a scapegoat. Nazis started with people with disabilities and similar groups first and shifted to exploiting existing prejudice against Jewish people. Trump and much of GOP have been stupid racists from the start. Also, all of these types of fascist groups starts infighting eventually and fewer and fewer people are “pure enough”