As weird as the title sounds, my family really dislikes me using Tuta and not Gmail. Is your family also like this?
“Come on, Sarah, can’t you just be normal and use Gmail like everyone?”
- my mom, scolding me.
Wait for Google to ban their account. Then, ask them if having no email is normal.
gmail is objectively worse compared to smaller services in many ways.
“everyone” is computer illiterate, that’s why they use gmail.
also
using gmail during a fascist takeover of your country.
Totally
If it makes you feel any better, when someone calls on you being normal, they are, by definition, the asshole that can’t adjust. Doesn’t mean they’re an unlovable person, but it’s a personal flaw of them, not you. It’s not like you are changing their way of life. You are changing your way of interacting with them. Respect and understanding should go both ways, not just one.
I don’t really care about their complains on my ways anymore
You seem to care enough to ask strangers on the internet for similar experiences.
Meh
I’ll expand this question to my entire social circle.
I haven’t found that anybody cares about my email provider. It doesn’t affect them because email is federated. Nobody has ever asked me why I’m mailing them from a domain I own rather than a service provider they’ve heard of.
Where I do run into a lot of resistance is trying to get people to use Signal. Some people seem to find the concept of having multiple messaging apps objectionable, which has never made any sense to me as long as they have basic computer skills. On occasion, I’m on the other side of that conversation when I’m unwilling to use Facebook Messenger for reasons that should be obvious to anyone in this community.
If by family you mean biological family, I never really cared much what they think about anything (or about anyone). Also, I was still a little boy when I had to learn how to protect my privacy from my intrusive mom. So, yeah what anyone else may think about my choice and priorities was never that important.
If you’re referring to my real family, aka the person I decided to share my life with almost 30 years ago, we’re both adults and we both are fine with the other not doing things exactly like we would do them (it happens we also both care about preserving as much of our privacy), like we’re fine with the other having activities we’re not involved in ;)
Tell her; “no mom, if some 30 year old man was tracking me, reading my mail, texts and tracked my location you’d be getting ready to murder him. Why should I let gmail get away with the same shit?”
And to me email is the most useless one to do anything about. Cause your emailing someone who has an outlook or Google account. And then they get it anyways.
No, they respect my goals and seem to have accepted that I’m sometimes just unreachable. The only thing they might be annoyed about is my GrapheneOS and Signal proselytism. If anything, it’s more apathy than antagonism. They’ll agree with me on privacy issues but rarely ever give up the conveniences of Apple, Microsoft, Google, etc. in practice.
Ask her if all her friends jumped down a cliff would she also jump down a cliff?
Parry and hit back. Ask her why it matters what you use if you can function with them as if you use google. Then return fire with your favorite reason not to use google. For me, I like to open the dev tools in Firefox, and show the head of any website. Let them choose. Find the line with google analytics, google tag service, or google ad sense. “Wow this website has nothing to do with google. Why is this here? To track you. Did you know that google can track your mouse? Even if you don’t click on anything? Or they can track you by installing fonts?” Etc. Etc. Scare the shit out of them and they’ll leave you alone. Hopefully you can slowly begin to convert them.
Don’t frame it as practical. It’s moral.
It was, and in a number of places still is, ‘normal’ to say she’s a woman and therefor has no business having a private email address at all, that all communication with her should be through her father or husband, and that if she were to talk to a man herself she’d have to be beaten to make her behave more ‘normally.’ Normal just means common, not good. If she wants to keep talking to people through Daddy Google, that’s her choice, very ‘normal,’ but you would rather be good.
Never defend. Always go on the offensive, Art of War. Never say privacy. Never get dragged tech yapping. Always, ‘control’, ‘power’, ‘scam’ and ‘abuse’, stay on target. Never start with what is won. Human care much more about loss. Focus on what they are losing.
Something like:
Watching 100 pedos from big tech gape out your inbox has never been normal but I’m not judging you.
… okay?
- Paranoid: 0% normal
- Blocking scams: 100% normal
The title sounds weird because it’s word gore, not because of the implied meaning. Try reading what you’ve written.
Sorry, English is not my first language + I’m kinda sick today
English may not be their first language.
That was my first thought too. They could change the title.
Is Your Family Also Against Your Privacy Preserving Methods
- it you would have WhatsApp, we could keep in contact
- oh, come one, we have a Facebook Family group
- can’t you just share a Google calendar with me
- …
Huh? What difference does it make to them…?
Wait, thinking about it, is it because name at gmail is easier to remember for them? Because gmail is the “standard” in their minds?
Normies find it triggering if thongs take extra steps or aren’t proceeding in the normal way they expect.
My family (and wife especially) get triggered…“why can’t we just be normal and use Netflix, why do we have to tolerate any buffering on your Jellyfin thing. What was the email address you use again? Why don’t you just use WhatsApp like everyone else, no one uses this Signal nonsense. I’m sending you photos on Google Photos or WhatsApp, why should I have to figure out adding them to you NAS drop folder. What is this MailBox nonsense, why don’t you just share your calendar from google calendar”.
A lot of tech tools are social tools. Other people don’t want to think about this stuff. They don’t care about stuff that doesnt affect them. They don’t care about my FreshRSS feeds, that doesnt affect them. But they do care that I can’t send them photos on Google Photos.
Lawyer up, hit the gym, find a new wife
And sometimes regular people want things to work with minimal friction.
why can’t we just be normal and use Netflix, why do we have to tolerate any buffering on your Jellyfin thing
I’ve run Jellyfin and I get this; you must not have something serious correctly, your bandwidth sucks, or it’s a bug in Jellyfin. Either way, that’s friction.
I’m sending you photos on Google Photos or WhatsApp, why should I have to figure out adding them to you NAS drop folder.
Again, friction. Google Photos and WhatsApp is easy. I guarantee you’ve setup something that you think is cool but is just a PITA.
I’d be like if a mechanic setup this car so that everything was opposite to make it difficult to steal; gas on the left and brake on the right, turn signal on the left, etc etc. sure he thinks it’s cool and when he drives it it’s fine, but it’s a PITA for anyone else to drive his car. And he asks people to drive his car constantly to show them how cool it is because of all the work he put into it.
And don’t call people “normies”. You sound like you live in you mom’s basement when you say that.
Probably. But my parents are really crazy. This kind of thing was kinda expectable over the guys who start to yell at each other because of a pot’s shape.










