• Night Monkey@sh.itjust.works
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      I’m not talking about anybody in particular. All I’m saying is that genitals and skin color shouldn’t automatically make you equal to the best man/woman in the room.

      How is this a controversial take?

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        You said that people should be paid what they’re worth and then said people with “a vag” or different skin color shouldn’t get more money because of that. It’s well-known that women and minorities get paid significantly less than their white male peers on average.

        So, logically, your implication is that women and minorities are paid less because they’re worth less. I’m asking you to explain why you believe that. It’s not that complicated.

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          Maybe they’re paid less because they aren’t as good. If you owned a business and you had to choose between a black woman who isn’t qualified or a white man who is more qualified, what would you do?

          I’m completely unbiased in this topic. All I’m saying is that the most qualified person should get the higher paying jobs. That’s how I would run my business. If it just so happens to be a trans black lesbian, then so be it.

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            women and minorities who are equally (or sometimes more) qualified regularly get paid less on average than their white male peers. you claim to be unbiased, yet this information is neither new, nor it is uncommon knowledge. still, you continue imply that these people are paid less because they are worth less.

            I am, once again, asking you to explain why you believe that’s the case.

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        So the highest paid person in the room is automatically the best, which statistically just happens to be white men? That sure is interesting.

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            Yes, you are side stepping to avoid acknowledging that women and/or anyone who isn’t white tends to make less than their white male colleagues of the same (or worse) qualifications, while simultaneously framing the higher earners (who coincidentally happen to be disproportionately white men) as the “best” people in the room.

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                You’re still doing it, despite multiple people pointing out that someone’s pay doesn’t mean they are the most qualified.

                What lesson are you trying to get people to take away here? Because “gender and race are irrelevant” and “the highest paid people in the room (who happen to mostly be white men) are the most qualified” are exclusive messages. You’re also very insistent on casting only women and minorities as getting jobs for reasons other than their qualifications.

                Do you think Elon Musk is the most qualified person working at Space X?

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                  Doing what? 😂 I’m against discrimination. I don’t believe anybody should be held to a higher standard because of sex/gender and skin color. How is this a controversial opinion? I don’t know how else to say it.

                  Elon musk is the most qualified boss of space x. He created it, he funded it, he leads it and they are doing great things. It’s his business and he can run it how he sees fit. What’s the problem there? I feel like I’m talking circles here.