• grue@lemmy.world
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    7 days ago

    Only one of them is the cheap regular eggs, though. The others are organic or free range or otherwise differentiated in some way other than just the foam vs paper packaging.

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      6 days ago

      You should always buy the organic ones, even if they are so much more expensive. The conditions in which the chickens are kept, to produce the cheap eggs, is absolutely, inhumanely fucked up. You can see the difference in the yolk as well: the ones produced by chickens, that are fed better, and not kept in a way they cannot even move, are orange, while the ones by chickens kept and fed horribly, are yellow.

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        5 days ago

        The yolk thing is a myth. Farmers feed their hens dandelion extract to get the color. My family actually has pasture raised hens and the yolks are yellow.

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        5 days ago

        Organic is kind of a scam. At least not what people imagine. What you want is floor raised, or even better, free range. And grain fed. In every country the definitions are slightly different. Look into it. What you want is hens that are out in the open, so that they follow natural day cycles, that can move around a bit, and fed grain instead of feed, which is often made from fish flour and such.

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          5 days ago

          Oh, that is good to know. Here organic includes the highest standards for chicken wellfare, since they have to be let out etc., compared to just freerange that has tiny floorspace requirements, inside.

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            1 day ago

            I believe the EU requirements are minimum space (6 hens/sq. meter, not exactly running space), and organic feed, which is basically no GMO, no synthetic fertilizers/pesticides. grain-fed labeling is only compulsory if you label as such. Fish flour feed, if it’s from fisheries, is allowed, since it’s from wild origin.

            I used to be a partner at a company the produced BIO produce. The things we were allowed to do within EU rules would surprise most consumers. Things like using copper sulfate, and other “natural” pesticides without limits, phosphate and other fertilizers which are not synthetic, greenhouses with artificial lighting, etc.

            From your user name I’m going to assume that you are a Finn. It’s possible that Finland has stricter rules for BIO/organic (good), but EU regulations are way less strict than what people assume. People see the BIO/organic label and assume that grandma was hand feeding the hens from her apron.

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              1 day ago

              We follow the EU rules on that, as far as I know. And oh certainly, it is far from perfect; practically all animal products produced in big scale, are unethical, and I would not trust the organic labeling on plant products. But if you are going to buy eggs, even the EU bio criteria are significantly better, than having the chickens locked in tiny cages for their lives, or kept in huge indoor halls. The criteria, for example, also includes 4sq.m of outside space per chicken, and that they get to spend 1/3 their lives outside, whenever possible. Here the outdoor season is from May to October, I do not know does that differ in other EU countries. Is that great? No. But it is better, than the alternative requirements.

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                19 hours ago

                I agree. Definitely better, yes. What I was pointing out is that the whole organic/Bio thing can be deceptive, often in a subliminal way. There is quite a bit of marketing there.

                That said, I do buy BIO eggs, free range chicken and meats, the whole shebang. I just try to remember that it’s better than regular industrial, but not from my great aunt’s farm.

                What I haven’t made my mind up about is fish. I do fish, and eat what I catch. Sadly only in the summer, as I’m landlocked most of the year. The thing about intensive fishing VS. intensive fish farming causes me a bit of unease.