Rasbperry Pi is a popular choice as a SoC / SBC Linux board. But you have to use their custom linux kernel. Are there Linux boards with decent mainline Linux kernel support?

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    1 year ago

    Just google x86 SBCs and skip ARM. There are a bunch of options using AMD and Intel SoCs such as ODROID-H3.

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    You most likely do not want to run a mainline kernel / system. Run Armbian instead, it is Debian optimized for SBCs, it has a very good track record and sometimes is the only option after manufacturers stop creating images for their old boards.

    Generic images / mainline kernel might underperform in your board, the GPIO and other low level components will, most likely, not work and you might burn your storage as logging and other I/O intensive operations aren’t tweaked for SD/eMMC. Armbian aims to fix all those issues and provides continuous system and kernel updates long after the manufacturer stops doing so.

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      1 year ago

      run a mainline kernel

      Having a board which is supported by mainline doesn’t imply running a mainline kernel. Having mainline support is a huge advantage regardless of which kernel is run on a board.

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        1 year ago

        Anything less than mainline support is ewaste imo. Look how terrible the pi graphics support used to be but now thanks to excellent upstream kernel/Mesa drivers it’s great and will continue to work/improve for the foreseeable future.

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      I sold my Odroid C2 or something, as there was no support anymore… didnt know much of Linux, I guess armbian woul have been fine?

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    1 year ago

    Are you married to SBCs? There are dirt cheap, pretty powerful and small thin clients floating around in ebay. HP G3 mini for example.

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      Can’t even being to agree enough on this. Unless you specifically need something that an SBC - ARM or X86 - offers, a second hand thin client or USFF computer will be a better fit, plus they come with high-quality power supplies and solid cases.

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      They seem to be the only product that occupies negligible space and is relatively affordable.

      The other options are either more expensive or significantly larger.

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        Well, not really. The HP g3 mini is roughly the size of a paperback book and costs around 100€, depending on the specs. Similar devices of slightly older makes are even cheaper.

        So, yes, they are physically larger, but still pretty small. Chances are, you don’t actually need a tiny device like a Pi, so you should at least consider SFF PCs.

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    Who said that (you have to use their custom mainline kernel)?

    Fedora have an IoT distribution that fits the Raspberry Pi for example. There’s workstation and a ostree versions.

    Armbian I’ve used in preference to Raspbian or whatever they call it today. I like the cleanest distributions as much as possible.

    That’s all I have personal experience with, but there are others.

    Meanwhile, others have suggested other boards. However, don’t think that Raspbian is it (pun intended).

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        Device Tree Source. It’s a text description of the hardware. The kernel uses it to load and configure drivers. It’s the most critical set of information for supporting any particular board.

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    my info could be out of date on this, but the last time i looked into it, the khadas vim3 was the most powerful arm sbc with mainline linux support.