I’m hetero but still think this is pretty damn funny!
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If the shirt were written in Chinese, maybe you’d have a leg to stand on. But let’s not sit here and pretend like an oppressive atheistic regime has ever caused issues in Western, English speaking nations.
Who spearheaded anti-gay marriage movements? Who revoked women’s rights to abortion? Who advocates for transphobic laws? Christian fundamentalists. They are a humongous problem in the western world. Atheism is not.
Look, I have many Christian friends. And there are many Christian organizations that do good for the world. But in the US, it’s Christian fundamentalism that is a huge threat to human rights…not atheism.
“You mean like the need for me to pretend that I am straight? Ooh, believe me, I’m trying buddy!”
-Every religious leader and republican politician, in their free time
I shouldn’t need to qualify myself with this statement but I definitely still do: I am strong in favor of LGBTQ+ rights
Now my actual point: This type of divisive stuff actively contributes to the rising conservatism in our youth. We would be foolish to think the reason for the rise in conservatism is simply that the bad guys are succeeding, it is also because the good guys are actively failing.
The 150 millisecond dopamine hit from dunking on your perceived political opponents is not worth the generations-long division it contributes to.
The cause of the divisive stuff is not jokes like this on a t-shirt. It is the rise of misinformation and disinformation enabled by social media. It actively promotes divisive posts because it is what grabs the attention of people regardless of if it is true or accurate.
Like I said… You are giving examples of their side succeeding. I’m pointing to this as an example of our side failing. Two problems.
Of course. I agree with your point conservatism is rising because of divisive stuff is out competing accurate information. I am simply saying the root cause of it is social media’s algorithm and their intentional amplification of divisive stuff. A joke on a t-shirt imo can actually help combat against the rise of division because in real life people are not really divisive and will actually talk about topics in a real and reasonable manner without the divisiveness of the internet.
A joke like this a powerful way of getting people to think about how shitty religion’s takes are by simply changing who it refers to from gay to straight.
This isn’t a dunk, it’s a joke.
I’m literally gay and this shit even makes me homophobic.
That’s tacit complicity. By not confronting the problem, you’re saying you’re okay with the behavior.
”If I were to remain silent, I’d be guilty of complicity.”
Albert Einstein
No it’s more like not throwing shade on people who haven’t thrown shade.
If you just walk up to someone assuming their straight and give them shit for it you’re just as bad as a straight person doing the same to someone who’s gay.
Now if they were already giving a gay person shit by all means go off. The problem is people act on their emotions before figuring out the full scenario in front of them.
In general people need to stop acting on emotional impulse and wait till they actually know what’s going on
As a socialist and anti-capitalist, people who wear clothing with brands on them offend me. They are throwing shade just by wearing branded clothes. Capitalism doesn’t care because that’s the consensus reality we’ve accepted. In the same way, if this t-shirt offends someone, that’s their problem. Homophobia and discrimination should have no place in our consensus reality. To cater to the emotions of those offended is to concede acceptance of their consensus. Also, I don’t think the t-shirt is and indictment of straight people, but more of religion.
“I hate the gays because a t-shirt had a joke I don’t like”
What the fuck are you talking about?
I don’t remember typing anything like that, sooo… What the fuck are you talking about?
Don’t put quotes on something that isn’t a quote. It makes you seem dishonest.
My point, you disingenuous pedant, is how is this satirical t-shirt going to lead to kids becoming more conservative?
You really think me pushing back on you trying to paint me as blatantly homophobic is disingenuous pedantry?
“I love genocide” -PM_me_your_vagina_thanks, 2023
Cool, right? Don’t push back, that would be disingenuous pedantry.
If you wanna actually discuss then actually discuss. If you’re going to start your argument like a child then don’t be surprised when you’re treated like one.
lmfao, sure thing, dipshit. Nice avoiding the topic at hand.
Why do you feel entitled to a certain kind of response when you start the dialog like an asshole and continue to act like an asshole? If you go through my recent comment history you’ll see that I’m doing my best to engage and provide a thoughtful response to everyone except you. Don’t pretend I’m the problem here.
Still avoiding giving any kind of answer lmao
That’s exactly what someone who supports genocide would say.
