Meta just announced that they are trying to integrate Threads with ActivityPub (Mastodon, Lemmy, etc.). We need to defederate them if we want to avoid them pushing their crap into fediverse.

If you’re a server admin, please defederate Meta’s domain “threads.net

If you don’t run your own server, please ask your server admin to defederate “threads.net”.

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    11 months ago

    How are we supposed to do that when people like you are encouraging admins to defederate which removes any semblance of freedom of choice that you are fucking trying to imply we act upon?

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      11 months ago

      They’re a multinational corporation, they don’t need us to host their shit for you to be able to read a goddamn article and learn something.

      If you don’t yet understand that they’re evil that’s on you.

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          11 months ago

          Then you’re evil. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

          Go ahead, be evil. It is certainly your prerogative.

          Edit: just look at how many votes “But what if some of us don’t care if they’re evil?” got. Like, what a wild-ass bullshit thing to say. This thread is definitely being astroturfed.

          • TacoButtPlug@sh.itjust.works
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            11 months ago

            I’ve noticed a lot of turfing on all of these threadsfed posts. It’s becoming more and more. People just need to get a threads account if it’s so important to them.

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          11 months ago

          Then feel free to go to threads or somewhere that does federate with them. You don’t have to stay on a particular instance if they don’t federate with something you want to engage with.

          That’s your freedom of choice.

        • Excrubulent@slrpnk.net
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          11 months ago

          Choose what? If you want to find an instance unscrupulous enough to federate with that company then go for it. Who is stopping you?

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            11 months ago

            People like OP here, begging admin to block it?

            Like are you for real? He’s literally asking them to take my choice away.

            • Excrubulent@slrpnk.net
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              11 months ago

              It is always the admins’ choice, that has never been any different. You are free to choose which instance you are part of.

              This petition changes nothing about that.

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                11 months ago

                “We need to defederate from them” is not a petition…

                Also, you could just choose not to subscribe to them, go to a place where they are defederated, or even just block them yourself with the right apps.

                That’s a whole lot of choice for you in a platform based around decentralization and user choice.

                But on the flip side if you just make everyone defederate them, then you’re removing user choice completely just based on your personal feelings on the matter.

                That doesn’t seem fair to me just because you personally hate something that I don’t.

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                  11 months ago

                  We’re not making anyone do anything. This is a pledge for admins to volunteer for, to send a message that this instance won’t be welcome. There are going to be pariah instances, that’s the nature of federation. If you can’t find an instance to follow that federates with them, then that just means the thing you want is deeply, deeply unpopular.

                  If you care enough, you could join their instance. You could start your own instance and federate with them. Go for it. If and when your own instance becomes a pariah I’m sure you’ll whine about people taking away your freedom to be an asshole at them online, because nobody can make you learn a lessom you’re clearly set on not learning.

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                    11 months ago

                    If you can’t find an instance to follow that federates with them, then that just means the thing you want is deeply, deeply unpopular.

                    MFer how you expect me to find any if you keep going around begging them to wholesale block access.

                    Just don’t subscribe to it, or block it yourself! You don’t get to decide for everyone else what content they can access here

    • Zorque@kbin.social
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      11 months ago

      So… admins aren’t free to choose? Why are you trying to take away admins freedom of choice? Sounds kind of authoritarian to me.

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        11 months ago

        If you’re self-hosting a personal instance, do whatever you want.

        But if you’re hosting a community for other people, you should consider what they want. That’s the responsibility of a community leader.

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          That’s the beauty of the fediverse, if the instance you’re on isn’t doing what you want, you can move to another one. Or create your own.

          I’d say that’s a pretty clear indicator of the popularity of decisions. Saying “No, you can’t do that, cause I don’t want that” is putting your desires above the desires of others.