Ahh yes, the ability to have different communities with different rules is WORSE than a monolith that bans anyone who disagrees with Dear Leader…
Your views are completely ignorant to what the entire point of the fediverse even is. If you want to go live under a king that can have you killed for frowning at him … leave. No one is keeping you here against your will.
Your views are completely ignorant to what the entire point of the fediverse even is.
I think you are missing his point, that the fediverse in large parts is failing to live up to its own aspirations. Yes, of course the people who gravitated to the fediverse expect more independence and self organization, but I think people also expected some semblance of cooperation and community.
It feels like instead of having one large empire ruled by an emperor, we’re instead in a divided land ruled by hundreds of kings. The abuses are the same, but more localized.
Yes you can move on to the next realm once you make an enemy of some minor tyrant, but this also forces people to be more transient. Which isn’t amicable to creating a long lasting community with lots of engagement.
Reddit has it’s problems, everyone here already knows that. But, that shouldn’t prevent us from engaging in self criticism about the fediverse. A system that can’t be criticized is a system doomed to stagnation.
I’m not saying don’t criticize it. I’m saying even understand what it’s trying to do before you start whining about how it doesn’t work.
This was always, ALWAYS going to happen. That was the plan. The idea isn’t to magically solve all of Reddit’s problems, but to decentralize the product. It’s the same product, OF COURSE it has nearly the same identical flaws on a per-instance basis.
The entire point is the federation and choice, NOT some mystical idea of a Reddit without Reddit problems. That’s just stupid expectations.
Except you get banned from different communities on a whim of a powertripping moderator. And all of those communities have 0.1% of the userbase. And all of those communities are duplicated, to further fracture it.
It all sounds fun on paper, but the reality is, it’s not working. Just the meta scare recently is a good example - guilty until proven innocent, banning a huge potential userbase “cuz its meta”.
Ahh yes, the ability to have different communities with different rules is WORSE than a monolith that bans anyone who disagrees with Dear Leader…
Your views are completely ignorant to what the entire point of the fediverse even is. If you want to go live under a king that can have you killed for frowning at him … leave. No one is keeping you here against your will.
I think you are missing his point, that the fediverse in large parts is failing to live up to its own aspirations. Yes, of course the people who gravitated to the fediverse expect more independence and self organization, but I think people also expected some semblance of cooperation and community.
It feels like instead of having one large empire ruled by an emperor, we’re instead in a divided land ruled by hundreds of kings. The abuses are the same, but more localized.
Yes you can move on to the next realm once you make an enemy of some minor tyrant, but this also forces people to be more transient. Which isn’t amicable to creating a long lasting community with lots of engagement.
Reddit has it’s problems, everyone here already knows that. But, that shouldn’t prevent us from engaging in self criticism about the fediverse. A system that can’t be criticized is a system doomed to stagnation.
I’m not saying don’t criticize it. I’m saying even understand what it’s trying to do before you start whining about how it doesn’t work.
This was always, ALWAYS going to happen. That was the plan. The idea isn’t to magically solve all of Reddit’s problems, but to decentralize the product. It’s the same product, OF COURSE it has nearly the same identical flaws on a per-instance basis.
The entire point is the federation and choice, NOT some mystical idea of a Reddit without Reddit problems. That’s just stupid expectations.
Except you get banned from different communities on a whim of a powertripping moderator. And all of those communities have 0.1% of the userbase. And all of those communities are duplicated, to further fracture it.
It all sounds fun on paper, but the reality is, it’s not working. Just the meta scare recently is a good example - guilty until proven innocent, banning a huge potential userbase “cuz its meta”.
Please don’t get worked up over a 4chan post…