• umbrella@lemmy.ml
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    9 months ago

    thats fair, but from an outside perspective (from either country) it looks exactly like how the US treats its dissidents. i doubt someone like julian assange would get better treatment.

    also, i dont know how they defined “dissident” in this case but its vague enough that i wont judge too hastily.

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      9 months ago

      yes.

      The US tortures its dissidents. Just look at how they treated War on Terror whistleblower Chelsea Manning. Even the UN special rapporteur on torture spoke up about her treatment. She was driven to attempt suicide in prison multiple times. Including when she refused to cooperate with the secret Grand Jury investigating WikiLeaks and Julian Assange.

      Julian Assange is about to be buried in a US prison and get a taste of that same medicine. Where are the Guardian outrage-articles on that? Oh, wait, that’s right. They threw him under the bus as soon as he’d given them access to the best scoops of the century (US diplomatic cables). The Guardian journos divulged the pass phrase to the unredacted cables in their book giving anyone who could locate the files online access. Cryptome published the unredacted cables before WL did while Assange called the State Department trying to warn them of the bad news. The Guardian then tried to make out like WL had acted irresponsibly in publishing the unredacted cables, when in reality the cat was already out of the bag and WL was doing harm-minimization. The Guardian’s blame-shifting makes my blood boil.

      The ‘Guardian’ has no ethics and can’t be trusted on anything political imo.

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      9 months ago

      Just because one state is also shitty to dissenters does not mean another state isn’t. They don’t cancel each other out.

      Dissident is pretty vague, probably on purpose. As much as I dislike the US government, I can say the government here is shit and not get hauled to jail for the most part. The same is not necessarily true in China

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        9 months ago

        people have been jailed for making tweets in the uk.

        and probably the us too, im just too lazy to look it up.

        communists are considered dissidents in the us, ask one of them how would they be treated if they got singled out.

        you dont even have to get that far, look at how all the recent big protests went…

        also assange exposed american war crimes, thats what this is truly about.