OpenAI’s ChatGPT and Sam Altman are in massive trouble. OpenAI is getting sued in the US for illegally using content from the internet to train their LLM or large language models

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    1 year ago

    This is interesting. Now wealthy folks can defend their copying of data for personal gain while the concept of content piracy is a criminal offense for the everyday joe, complete with steep fines and sometimes vacations to clubfed.

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    1 year ago

    If I learned to read from Dr. Seuss books, does that mean that everything I write owes a copyright tariff to the Geisel estate?

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    1 year ago

    if you release data into the public domain (aka, if it’s indexable by a search engine) then copying that data isnt stealing - it cant be, the data was already public in the first place.

    this is just some lawyer trying to make a name for themselves

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      1 year ago

      Just because the data is “public” doesn’t mean it was intended to be used in this manner. Some of the data was even explicitly protected by gpl licensing or similar.

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        1 year ago

        but GPL licensing indicates that “If code was put in the public domain by its developer, it is in the public domain no matter where it has been” - so, likewise for data. if anyone has a case against OpenAI, it’d be whatever platforms they scraped - and ultimately those platforms would open their own, individual lawsuits.

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              1 year ago

              If you release code under gpl, and I modify it, I’m required to release those modifications publicly under gpl as well.

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                1 year ago

                so if content is under GPL and used for training data, how far is the process of training/fine-tuning considered “modification”? For example, if I scrape a bunch of blog posts and just try to use tools to analyze the language, does that considered “modification”? What is the minimum solution that OpenAI should do (or should have done) here, does it stop at making the code for processing the data public, or the entire code base?

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                  I’m not sure. And I’m not sure there’s legal precedant for that either.
                  That’s why I dont have a problem with any of these lawsuits, it gives us clarity on the legal aspects, whichever way it goes.