Why should I have to subsidize your oversized work vehicle and the extra wear and tear it causes our infrastructure?
Drive a van. Drive a truck that is reasonably sized and designed for human work (like are used in many countries around the world). Pickups don’t have to be built on frames sized for semis.
And you dont understand the needs of people that do work on housing, you can tow a significant trailer or haul heavy things with a van or small pickup. A half ton pickup is not useful for real work.
I do get it. You have no reasonable excuse to drive a multi-ton pickup that’s tall enough that you can’t see people standing in front of it. There are alternatives or it’s not needed as a daily driver. How is it that the rest of the world manages to accomplish the same things with smaller vehicles?
Keep trying to justify it to yourself or just own the fact that it’s ostentatious and ridiculous.
What kind of conceited child tells people to “do some real work” and talks like no one else could exist but by the grace of their work?
hyper individualism
blind support for oversized trucks
Gotta be from the US, huh?
Take a look outside your country and see how things are done elsewhere. I can’t fault you for the shitty US auto.industry continuing to needlessly bloat the size of vehicles past what is reasonable, but I can fault you for your blind support of it.
Go do some real work and take a good hard look at how your truck compares to those from the 1990s or the early 2000s. Unless it’s specialized, does it have a bigger bed? Is the bed at a reasonable height for lifting things in and out of, or is it needlessly tall? Where are your spark plugs - do you need to take the entire cab off to access and replace them? How tall is the hood - when you hit a pedestrian, do they roll on top of the hood and survive or do they go under the vehicle and get dragged along and killed? Can you see around your vehicle enough to park and maneuver easily, or do you require a dedicated GPU and camera system that renders a 3D image of your surroundings because otherwise you couldn’t park your rig because you can’t see a single thing within 30 ft of your vehicle in any direction? When something goes wrong and your vehicle needs work, do you have to take it to a specialized mechanic to fix it, or can you take it to almost any mechanic to fix? Better yet, can you do some real work and fix it yourself, or does it require proprietary tools and specialized software to maintain?
You tell me: what is needed and what is not needed? New trucks suck. They are bloated, ostentatious pieces of trash.
The better pitch is to consider the “tax” like an additional permit with increased costs, including mandatory more expensive insurance. It’s the cost of doing business, wrapped into your overhead. The disparity between the large pickups and the smaller sedans of yesteryear are staggering; imagine if you could buy and operate a semi truck with the same costs and licensing as a sedan. Trailers parked in front of your house completely obscuring the street, or taking up extra spots at the grocery store. People who don’t know the size of their vehicle knocking over signs and mailboxes. More roadkill, dead pets, and pedestrian fatalities because there are so many blind spots for such a big truck.
Obviously, pickups and semis are still quite different in size, but the point is that pickups and large SUVs are now so much bigger than sedans–bigger than what we built our streets and bridges for–that they present additional danger.
Larger vehicles cause more wear and tear on the road just by driving on them
collisions and accidents are more destructive and fatal due to the more deadly shape and weight
blind spots are bigger, making the vehicle more dangerous for anyone outside of it
effects of distracted driving are compounded
irresponsible drivers get to drive these larger vehicles without any additional barrier to entry
In short: these machines can be used to perform specific tasks, but they are not the same size, shape, or weight of our lived environment. Additional regulation is needed to offset the real effects on people and infrastructure (e.g., more difficult licensing, higher registration fees, higher tolls, etc.).
Everything you mention should be accounted for by higher insurance and the gas tax.
I think what we are running into is the conflict between freedom vs safety. I think it will get more apparent as people are not able to afford things that we have reached the point where we have too much regulation and things will get too expensive for people to afford.
IMO, you should be exempt. The vast majority of jobs don’t require a truck, yet the F150 is the most-sold vehicle in the US. So you’re in the minority.
vehicles over 5000 lbs should pay a tax, which should be used to upgrade infrastructure. This tax would likely be very steep.
No, because rich assholes who drive these guided missiles would just pay the tax and continue to put us all at risk.
They should be banned, unless required for work… while at work… with proof that this work requires such a large vehicle to be used.
I have to drive a pickup for work, why should I have a very steep tax for helping to build and fix your housing?
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Why should I have to subsidize your oversized work vehicle and the extra wear and tear it causes our infrastructure?
Drive a van. Drive a truck that is reasonably sized and designed for human work (like are used in many countries around the world). Pickups don’t have to be built on frames sized for semis.
Gas Tax covers the damage.
And you dont understand the needs of people that do work on housing, you can tow a significant trailer or haul heavy things with a van or small pickup. A half ton pickup is not useful for real work.
Excuses.
If you dont know what you are talking about then dont be a critique. Do some hard work and then you will get it.
I do get it. You have no reasonable excuse to drive a multi-ton pickup that’s tall enough that you can’t see people standing in front of it. There are alternatives or it’s not needed as a daily driver. How is it that the rest of the world manages to accomplish the same things with smaller vehicles?
Keep trying to justify it to yourself or just own the fact that it’s ostentatious and ridiculous.
I literally had a smaller vehicle before, and it didnt work. Again, do some real work so you actually understand what is needed and not needed.
What kind of conceited child tells people to “do some real work” and talks like no one else could exist but by the grace of their work?
Gotta be from the US, huh?
Take a look outside your country and see how things are done elsewhere. I can’t fault you for the shitty US auto.industry continuing to needlessly bloat the size of vehicles past what is reasonable, but I can fault you for your blind support of it.
Go do some real work and take a good hard look at how your truck compares to those from the 1990s or the early 2000s. Unless it’s specialized, does it have a bigger bed? Is the bed at a reasonable height for lifting things in and out of, or is it needlessly tall? Where are your spark plugs - do you need to take the entire cab off to access and replace them? How tall is the hood - when you hit a pedestrian, do they roll on top of the hood and survive or do they go under the vehicle and get dragged along and killed? Can you see around your vehicle enough to park and maneuver easily, or do you require a dedicated GPU and camera system that renders a 3D image of your surroundings because otherwise you couldn’t park your rig because you can’t see a single thing within 30 ft of your vehicle in any direction? When something goes wrong and your vehicle needs work, do you have to take it to a specialized mechanic to fix it, or can you take it to almost any mechanic to fix? Better yet, can you do some real work and fix it yourself, or does it require proprietary tools and specialized software to maintain?
You tell me: what is needed and what is not needed? New trucks suck. They are bloated, ostentatious pieces of trash.
Can’t tell if /s or not… Infrastructure isn’t housing, it’s roads, bridges, etc
Great, but the question stands, why should I be penelized for needing a vehicle that fixes and builds your housing?
Great question.
The better pitch is to consider the “tax” like an additional permit with increased costs, including mandatory more expensive insurance. It’s the cost of doing business, wrapped into your overhead. The disparity between the large pickups and the smaller sedans of yesteryear are staggering; imagine if you could buy and operate a semi truck with the same costs and licensing as a sedan. Trailers parked in front of your house completely obscuring the street, or taking up extra spots at the grocery store. People who don’t know the size of their vehicle knocking over signs and mailboxes. More roadkill, dead pets, and pedestrian fatalities because there are so many blind spots for such a big truck.
Obviously, pickups and semis are still quite different in size, but the point is that pickups and large SUVs are now so much bigger than sedans–bigger than what we built our streets and bridges for–that they present additional danger.
In short: these machines can be used to perform specific tasks, but they are not the same size, shape, or weight of our lived environment. Additional regulation is needed to offset the real effects on people and infrastructure (e.g., more difficult licensing, higher registration fees, higher tolls, etc.).
Everything you mention should be accounted for by higher insurance and the gas tax.
I think what we are running into is the conflict between freedom vs safety. I think it will get more apparent as people are not able to afford things that we have reached the point where we have too much regulation and things will get too expensive for people to afford.
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Why should work vehicles be harder to use and get higher taxes?
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Gas tax does that.
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IMO, you should be exempt. The vast majority of jobs don’t require a truck, yet the F150 is the most-sold vehicle in the US. So you’re in the minority.