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  • Bonehead@kbin.socialtomemes@lemmy.worldHappens once per thread
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    5 months ago

    Individual men were hurt by feeling classified as more dangerous to a random woman than a bear in the woods when their lived experiences place them well below that threat

    It’s quite obvious which side you’ve picked. You talk about men’s lived experiences while complaining that women talking about their lived experiences “trampled over a lot of innocent men.”

    There’s no point in debating this. If you’re really just a spectator, then you wouldn’t be actively arguing about it. But I don’t have to play along with this. That’s my choice…


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    5 months ago

    It’s one thing to say that you feel hurt by the idea that a woman would choose a bear over you. It’s another to argue that they are wrong to make that choice and that women are just being irrational. You have every right to feel hurt and to express that you feel hurt. You don’t have the right to tell anyone else what choice to make. That’s the line that was crossed. That’s where they were no longer innocent men. Of course you’re not going to win an argument when you try to control other people’s choices. The entire reason women choose the bear is because of men trying to control them. You don’t have to like that choice, but you do have to accept it because it’s not your choice to make.

    That’s the real winning move…accepting women’s choices, no matter how “wrong” you think it is.













  • Bonehead@kbin.socialtomemes@lemmy.worldnuanceposting
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    6 months ago

    This post is far from being the first relating to the experience of sexual abuse

    Yeah, and? So what if it’s not the first one. There’s no limit on the number of posts about sexual assault that women are allowed to create.

    This post is not that. It’s a ragebait utilizing an attack

    No, it’s women sharing stories about why they choose the bear. You call it ragebait simply because you put yourself in the group that isn’t being picked by women.

    In those circumstances, calling someone to listen and ignoring them telling you they see an attack in the way this is shaped is hypocritical at best.

    Yes, it is, which is why I don’t understand why you keep doing it. This is not an attack against you. You’ve been told that several times now.

    As a wider point, I also say that we should listen not only to women (but to them too), but also to men,

    Fine. Great. Let’s listen to men. But a post about how women are choosing the bear and why is not the place to insist that we must listen to men.

    If your priority is prevention rather than pure shows of hostility, you better be a listener for both, regardless of the direction of abuse.

    Right. Which is why you should stop talking about being attacked and just listen.


  • You are not being oppressed just because you’re a man.

    We just had to listen to black people saying what to do all along.

    You’re so very very close, but you just don’t want to take that last step. So let’s carry you the rest of the way.

    We just had to listen to women saying what to do all along.

    You’re in a post filled with women sharing their SA stories and explanating why they choose the bear. Instead of crying that you’re being attacked, why not try listening to them. Not suggest solutions, not tell that they are wrong for choosing the bear, not explaining how dangerous bears actually are, not taking things personally because these stories are not about you or what you would do. Just listen, and at least try to empathize. That’s all. If you want to make a post to vent about how you’re supposedly oppressed, go right ahead. But this post is not about you.


  • Bonehead@kbin.socialtomemes@lemmy.worldnuanceposting
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    6 months ago

    Black people have been enslaved and then treated like shit by racists for centuries. That’s why they are associated with criminal activity, not because they actually commit more crimes compared to everyone else. It’s not the same as the vast difference of men committing violent sexual assaults on women as opposed to women committing violent sexual assaults on men. The fact that you’re trying to equate them just shows you’re a racist as well.

    Besides, here you agree with black people it’s not just “people venting”, it is an attack.

    a comparison of men to dangerous animals, irrespective of any nuance, which is a form of attack on a social group.

    You said that, not me.

    Again, no one is attacking men. A bunch of women were asked on camera by a man, without warning, and they gave an off the cuff honest answer. You can’t get upset with all women just because some made a choice you don’t agree with. Especially not when that choice has nothing do with you, because they don’t even know you exist. Seriously, get over yourself. It’s not about you…


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    Why should I not compare?

    Because there is no difference between a white man and black man. On average, they are physically similar. But there is a massive physical difference between men and women. And before you interject with “ackshually, women can rape men too.” No one is disputing that. But how it is done and how often it happens is vastly different. Violent rape is a legitimate concern for every single woman, whether you want to accept it or not.

    Purposefully putting myself to what group?

    a comparison of men to dangerous animals, irrespective of any nuance, which is a form of attack on a social group.

    I literally pointed out what group I was referring to.

    You claim that you’re willing to listen, but you insist that women listen to you and accept your solutions without question. You claim you’re being attacked, when women are asked the question on camera without directing it at any specific person. You claim women are wrong to feel that way, without ever asking why they feel that way and what experiences lead to that decision. You claim you’re standing up for yourself, against women that would choose to be alone with a bear rather than a random unknown man.

    No one wants your solutions. No one asked for your solutions. No one is attacking you, because no one even knows who you are. No woman is wrong for feeling anything. And no woman should be forced to choose any man are not comfortable with, even if you’re a “nice guy”. It’s not about you…