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  • The limitations would be innate.

    That’s not how software works.

    Especially if it were tied to renewable resources, there’s a finite amount of resources on the planet even with renewables which can’t be 100% renewable by default.

    Until new technology is developed that makes the whole thing significantly cheaper and then the market drops out and since there’s no governing body, the global economy crashes and there’s another Great Depression. Macroeconomics does not seem to be your strong suit.

    People work because they have an innate drive to do so.

    There are not enough people who have an “innate drive” to do every job that needs doing in a modern society. No one has an “innate drive” to work at a factory because we didn’t evolve to work in factories. People don’t even have any sort of “innate drive” to farm, because we evolved to hunt and gather, two things that generally aren’t necessary anymore.

    Look at firefighters and search and rescue for example. Most are volunteer (at least where I am) and they run into burning buildings to rescue people for no money. Or they’re hiking into remote wilderness in awful conditions (deep snow, -20F outside, high winds, miles from civilization, huge cliffs to fall off of and die) to rescue lost skiers and hikers. Hell there’s plenty of rich people who could retire yesterday and live their lives out drinking Mai tais on the beach without a care in the world and yet for some reason they still show up to work, because they want to.

    Please do tell me about all of these people who want to be mining things because they find mining so enjoyable.

    I doubt people would be doing stupid pointless jobs pushing papers around in circles if they weren’t financially manipulated to do so.

    And yet those jobs are also necessary, because things need to be recorded for future reference, so how do you get people to do them if you don’t pay them? Yes, they sound pointless. Anyone who has actually worked those jobs can tell you why those papers are pushed around.



  • The second threat is the rise of “answer engines” like Perplexity which, well, do what they say on the tin. OpenAI has added internet search to ChatGPT, Meta Platforms is exploring building its own search engine, and even AI chatbots that can’t search the internet are proving increasingly capable at addressing many questions. They’re also becoming ever more widespread, as Microsoft and Appleintegrate them directly into the operating systems of all the devices they make or support.

    That is not an improvement, it’s just also not really any worse.


  • Who puts those limitations on it? Who gets to decide what those limitations are? Would those limits be baked-in forever (terrible idea) or changeable when new economic situations we might not even have thought of 10 years earlier arise?

    Seems to me the global body I am talking about would be the rational people to be in control of all that.

    As far as preferring a moneyless society, how would you propose people be encouraged to do dangerous but necessary jobs like mining for important minerals or servicing high voltage electrical cables if they aren’t going to be paid to do it? I think you’ll find that people generally don’t do those jobs because they think they’re fun.


  • I don’t mean anarchy in the sense you mean it, I mean it’s total chaos.

    And no, in the case of currency, more decentralized means no one knows what the price of milk is from week to week. Currencies need stability or they are not very useful. Hyperinflation is not an imaginary scenario.

    Those are not pictures of bank notes used by super rich people. Quite the opposite:

    I don’t have a solution for stopping bad actors

    Yes you do, you just don’t like it. The solution is a global governing and regulating body.