I may have been a bit hyperbolic calling Germany a ‘police state’ at the same time not exactly since places where you can be arrested for non-violent speech are not far off from police states. Some people don’t believe it’s that bad but I’ve heard horror stories of these laws being used against people the government disagrees with. That has happened and will happen again.

I already got banned for criticizing Germany, I don’t want to get banned for defending them as well! ;)

Unless you’re defending or justifying Germany’s legislated Zionism that’s unlikely. Rule 2 doesn’t forbid people from defending Germany it only forbids defending Zionism, Zionist practices, Zionist laws, which can in some cased be thought of as defending Germany. CyberEgg certainly thought so, but he quickly started accusing me of genocide and antisemitism when I pointed out the comment he was banned for so…

They’re separate because at the moment there’s a lot of people who are intentionally or unintentionally confusing Anti-Zionist movements with antisemitism. Antisemitism is hate speech and bigotry which is banned under rule 1. Zionism and it’s corresponding genocide denial is also hate speech but is separated into its own rule for clarity and to also make it clear that polite or “civil” Zionism isn’t welcome either. That’s where we get the people arguing that ‘you should feel hypocritical for supporting Greta Thunberg because [Something Anti-Zionist she said]’.

I mean you kind of should care since the tagline of the instance is “Be Weird, Download a Car, Generate Art, Screw Copyrights” it’s kind of hypocritical to stay on an instance if you don’t believe in or are aggressively against its principles. Like it wouldn’t make sense for someone to be a member of the piracy instance if they believe that piracy is wrong and intellectual property should be respected, similar thing goes for the AI instance. That might sound like a wrong comparison but the vast majority of anti-AI arguments I hear people barf up are along the lines of “we need to respect copyright” and “stealing intellectual property is wrong” “won’t someone think of the children artists”.

Then why are you on Lemmy’s leading AI friendly instance created by the guy who makes the AIhorde? Seems kind of like a conflict of interest…

I mean I agree with you if we’re talking about openAI, but not so much if we’re talking about lower end models meant to be self-hosted. In that case it’s not really much different from putting people down for gaming or other GPU heavy operations, and at that point we’re just fully leaning into the carbon footprint propaganda.

I hope you aren’t going to argue how other people should be allowed to use their own GPUs, that would be very ironic considering your name, @NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io

I mean if people use a self-hosted model on their own GPU that’s really their prerogative how they choose to use their GPU and the energy it uses.

Because they still think they aren’t and want to pretend they aren’t, they believe the law is on their side and they don’t have it in them to lie to a court and/or falsify evidence that they did do it “clean room” and betray the law which they believe is on their side. Even though it actually isn’t and probably never unless people get fed up enough to do what’s necessary.