Indeed, in terms of sudden impact and method of impact, no they are very different, and climate change probably won’t go so far as to make the human race extinct, at least not for a very long time. However, whether or not it will be catastrophic for the human race within the next 100-200 years no-one can accurately predict, given we do not know how much we’ll do to stop it before it’s too late (bare in mind that some scientists already believe the tipping point beyond which we can no longer stop it is well upon us).

As mentioned, the collapse of farming may well undermine any efforts to stop climate change given the big knock on negative impact on the world economy. Though that could also save us as there’d be a sudden massive drop in fossil fuel use and carbon emissions in such a scenario. There’s a lot of variables, but a catastrophic collapse is definitely a possibility. I think the human race is capable of saving itself from this, but capitalism and the corporate economy I fear stand in its way.

I think that depends on how you define ‘civilisation’. My inclination is that most people would say civilisation has ended if life is drastically different to how they perceive their life/world they live in. Think ‘civilisation as we know it’ rather than a dictionary definition.

However, I disagree that it’s not an existentisl threat, if only on the basis of possible crop failiures on a massive scale (reduced crop yields are a global issue already). Don’t underestimate the impact of food shortages on everything else, we in the west have become accustomed to easy access to food.

We have price caps in the UK. They’re not perfect but they have stopped us from paying a lot more than we would have this past year. And the UK is definitely no (did you mean to say?) utopia. Or do you think a price cap to protect consumers is something from a distopia?

Why do you think that I’m being willfully ignorant and not trying to learn? (Maybe using the phrase ‘cant buy’ is too informal/misleading). Can we not learn through discussion of our beleifs/understandings/theories etc? I have stated why I don’t think there are infinite coexisting universes, discuss or not as you please.

Also, disrespectful? What on earth are you talking about? How have I been disrespectful to anyone?

I can’t buy into the idea of multiverses. Sure there’s an infinite possible variants but not an actual infinite number of co-existing possibilities. At what point us it decided that another varient is created? Also try tying that into the theory that there’s no actual thing as free will due to predetermined particle interactions.

Come to the UK and marvel at our range of privatised services. It’s poetry in motion! Not that I’d dare think what would have happened in the past 13 years of glorious Conservative ‘governance’ had anything been in public ownership…

That’s one contented puss-cat :) we have a mini Schnauzer called Winter :) he’s no baby at 13, though still gets called puppy/puppa as he’s small even for a mini, plus still young at heart!