If you actively seek to murder people, I will actively ensure you are put in jail. I apply the same logic to fascists. Fascists only gain power throughout history when the left starts to actively degrade people’s lives. This is why the left historically has shifted to reform as the ethical approach and have gradually shifted more liberal.
If you cannot convince anyone with your words, you certainly won’t with your violence.
I agree which is why I consider myself a liberal.
So, you want to kill specific people because there is not a law against what they do?
I’m trying to get you to understand how extreme and also illogical this is. I know a lot of ethical left leaning people. You are not one of them.
Is a specific billionaire actively threatening your life with physical violence? I don’t think you understand how self defense works.
If murder is the only thing that works for people like you, don’t be surprised when it’s what you receive in return with the backing of the state.
Well, everyone is entitled to a fair trial. They are not guilty or eligible for capital punishment until that’s completed and found guilty by a jury of their peers. Try again, extremist.
So maybe don’t advocate for murder. Additionally, don’t suggest it as a solution if your views do not represent the majority opinion. That’s literally called radical extremism.
That’s literally the definition of economic fascism. Private corporations that are subservient to a one party state. The efficiencies of capitalism directed towards the will of the people.
I think it’s important that people understand the core argument behind fascism because if you do not counter it, you allow it to spread. Sometimes not by name but in form.
It’s also my core argument against any non liberal radicalism but that’s not a popular view on this platform for some reason.
So you kill them?! Is this how you solve all of your problems?
No, it’s just violence. There is no immediate threat on your life right now and this is premeditated.
We’re talking about you and your actions. Additionally, you are making the problem worse.
This is what convinces people that Lemmy has a bad community fyi.
There Lemmy goes inciting violence again. Why is it considered okay if it is the right kind of subversion? 99.9% of people are rational but that leaves millions that take this as a calling.
And then low cost grocery stores close and neighbors starve. How about you help them pay for it since you are there? Is a little personal ownership over the things you see too much for you?
Remember, when stores close in high crime areas and neighborhoods decline, it’s this person’s fault.
That’s a very good point, Sheeple.
Time is a progression. I hope we’ve gotten smarter but we still do often fall for the same tricks.
(Abstract narrative that everyone can agree with without agreeing what tricks we’re all falling victim to.)
The most likely scenario is an action that causes the majority of the military to rebel such as what happened in Syria. That’s partially why the military swears an oath to the Constitution and not the standing government.
For that to happen you need an inciting incident that is at least perceived to be against the Constitution by the majority of the military including a significant portion of the top brass.
We almost got there with all the January 6th shenanigans but the inciting incident involved the military sitting down and not listening to the Executive branch’s unethical orders.
Not everyone wants to be responsible for every aspect of their lives. Can I assume you don’t want to participate in your own food production or waste disposal? Specialization of labor is an important component in this which most respectable leftist texts will at least attempt to answer, even if they cannot solve it without centralization of economic planning.
If you use violence to bring about your preferred society, you enable violence as a tool of oppression by that society.