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  • splendoruranium@infosec.pubtoPrivacy@lemmy.mlIt hurts all over
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    8 months ago

    Privacy sentiments are subjective beliefs, not an objective fact like nature.

    I genuinely don’t see a point in engaging with you, even just based on what I stated above where you use your personal beliefs in line with objective, provable elements of the natural world. So I’ll choose not to. Cheers. 👍

    While I obviously cannot force you to continue a conversation you do not wish to have, I’m a bit perplexed by what you’re saying here and at what point “belief” entered the conversation. If you’re saying that data, personal and otherwise, has no real, objective, provable value then surely that would go against all physical evidence? There must be some kind of misunderstanding here. Well, cheers ✋



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    8 months ago

    I wouldn’t mind you finding out any information about me. I would mind you feeling entitled to me putting in effort and time to answer you. I’ve read all the suggestions people here posted and none made me reflect or get anywhere near changing my mind. Privacy centric people just have to accept not everyone is like them. I respect your need for privacy. I don’t understand why you obsessively require me to hold the same belief.

    I don’t think anyone requires you to hold any specific beliefs, nobody within this comment chain anyway.

    It’s a bit akin to meeting someone on the street and being told “It’s nighttime!” while the sun is out. I’d definitely be interested in understanding why that other person considers it to be nighttime and I would at the very least be disappointed not to get a conversation out of it.

    Three different fictitious requests:

    1. “Can you spare some change?”
    2. “Would you let me skip ahead of the queue please? I have an urgent appointment later on.”
    3. “Will you let us share your user data with our partners in order to improve our services?”

    I’m assuming here - and please correct me if I am wrong - that you would be likely to acquiesce to 3. in most contexts, maybe even more likely than to acquiesce to 1. or 2.?


  • You unfortunately can’t teach something like this to someone who doesn’t even understand the consequences of it. Or care.

    You can absolutely explain it and teach it and make people care. It’s just not easy. I’ve only ever encountered uninformed “I have nothing to hide”-responses to equally lackluster throwaway explanations . It’s a very difficult and abstract topic, it doesn’t come naturally! Don’t treat privacy concerns as equivalent to pointing out dirt on someone’s clothes, treat it like calculus. Successfully conveying it requires time, conversation and didactics.



  • what? no! licenses are how authors are deciding to grant specific permissions on their copyright.

    Sure. But that does not contradict what I wrote.

    that is like saying because you found a book in a library you have the choice to copy it and sell it.

    That is precisely the choice one has. It’s a choice one doesn’t have when one doesn’t know the contents of the book or when they are confronted with closed-source software.

    the fact that source is available does not grant any permission besides looking at it.

    Yes I agree. “Making the choice” would require making it without the author’s permission.
    But again, I’m not talking about permissions as I don’t really consider them to be nearly as important as availability and ability. One has the ability to modify/use code with the source and without permission one does not have the ability to modify/use code without the source and with permission.

    So yes, Libre is nice, but the source-open aspect is always the most important component.


  • Most important to me: Which of them is easier to self-host?

    I’ve been running a Mumble server for my friends for over a decade now and I’d like… something more without having to get too technical. Mumble is literally just a single apt-get and you’re basically done, so that’s about the level of technical expertise that I bring to the table. I’ve tentatively looked into other solutions over the years but I always feel my attention drifting when the setup-tutorial covers multiple pages and starts with manually configuring some database or certificate authority or whatever. Sorry, I didn’t mean for this to get too ranty.


  • I’m getting brain damage from this thread. So many stupid people here.

    2010 called, it wants its vaguebooking back 😜

    But in all seriousness, if you have grievances or consider any particular piece of information that you stumble upon to be incorrect then you need to either point that out specifically or refrain from commenting - otherwise you’re actively confusing and deteriorating a conversation, that’s not good.


  • The source code from windows have been leaked a few times already. Try repackaging it or redistributing with modifications, see how far it will go before you get sued into oblivion.

    I’m not really sure what you mean here, it has been modified and redistributed vigorously ever since its leak.

    “Suing a random internet person on the other side of the world” is rarely a successful proposition. In order for that to work there would have to be incentive, jurisdiction and a lack of anonymity :P