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    Any of you super coders in here know of a way to download the app ourselves and inject significant amounts of false data into it?

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    This is concerning. I don’t want some stranger knowing personal details about me before I even know they exist

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      I’ve received letters twice from the same individual who belongs to a JW church. The first was when they moved into the area, and the second was when I moved to another place.

      Your property ownership records (if you’re American) are public records, and if you grab it within like, 3 years (where I live), you can even find the closing price and more detailed information on the sale.

      Demand better privacy laws.

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      There was a Masto post recently where someone’s conservative mother told her that she knows being gay is a choice, because she feel attraction to girls, but she chooses not to act on it, and that’s the responsible Christian thing to do or w/e.

      It legit made me all of a sudden realize why there’s so much overlap between the “we have to punish the gays and make it illegal” and “I secretly go to male prostitutes all the time” in Republican circles. It just all of a sudden harmonized and clicked into place and made perfect sense.

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        Many that think being gay is a choice, are in fact bisexual themselves. So for them it’s a choice on whether or not to act on it. And they project that everyone else is the same.

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          And even then it’s not really a choice, since you can’t really choose to stop having feelings. I guess that for bi people it’s easier to pretend, but where there’s love, there’s love.

          It’s like, being a hetero dude and vlbeing forced to go with a girl when there’s another one you love. It’s hard in any case.

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            People tend to project themselves on other people. We all do it, and it can be shocking to find how different people actually are from each other. I’ve heard all my life from certain Christians that people who are atheist have no moral compass and there’s nothing stopping them from killing and raping people. Which I find revealing, because they are saying their beliefs are the only thing stopping them from doing those things. I have never once wanted to rape or kill anyone, maybe that’s why it’s easy for me to not believe in god.

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              That about the moral compass, and telling you that you cannot be happy without Jesus in your life are crocks of manure I know plenty of non-christians that live extremely happy and are much Kore decent than most of the Christians I know, including myself. In the same subject, I know plenty of Christians whose demeanor wouldbhave satanists praying for them since they could be worse people. And religions? Biggest issue in the world, bar none. Having faith is one thing, I have faith. I do NOT follow religion. Religions are full of dogmasbthat you are supposed to follow without question. Religion is what has Gaza busted the way it is.

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      It’s projection every time with conservatives. They hate you because they think you’re as shitty as they are.

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    This is a yikes, they’re doing the Westboro Church tactics without wanting the money, just to harass.

    The Mapping Center for Evangelism and Church Growth’s founder and president Chris Cooper suggests using the app to conduct neighborly activities such as putting on a barbecue for potential converts, but scattered throughout the app’s training and promotional videos are suggestions to undertake the controversial practice of “prayerwalking.” An idea becoming increasingly popular among Christian supremacist groups, prayerwalking involves believers flooding so-called “un-Christian” territories in order to combat “demonic strongholds.” In practice, it varies from blessing new neighbors to gathering groups to pray in front of everything from mosques to drag bars in service of “spiritual warfare.”

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    I dare one of them to show up to my front door. They are going to be in for a fucked up conversation that will make them second guess their life choices.

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      One stopped by my house last week. I told them this is an atheist household and the bible is a fictional story book, no offense. I quite enjoyed the face they made.

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        In my younger days told a Jehova’s Witness that Jesus was my favorite fictional character because he had the coolest superpowers. They went from overjoyed that I was engaging with them to Charlie Brown sad walking away in the space of a sentence.

        These days I’d probably be more rude but less offensive.

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        My favorite interaction was on a college campus. They had set up a table and were telling every passerby “Jesus loves you!” So I cheerfully returned “and Allah loves you!”

        I will forever cherish the physical recoil and look of revulsion that crossed their faces. I’m an atheist, for context

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          Funny stuff religions are. The Allah of the Muslims and the Yaweh of Israel is the same God. The split comes from the segregation of the people back then. Which just confirms my point. None of them investigate, and just follow whatever their “leaders” say without ever thinking to question anything.“Go house by house and say THIS. Do not deviate from the script.” They’re like cattle, seriously.

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    JFC, I installed the app and added “my address” and immediately was given a list of names and addresses to “pray for”.

    How am I supposed to pray for so many people!? What am I, an ATM?! Gelatians 4:20:69 had nothing to do with Gelato!1! This is getting 1 star and reported on the app store.

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      What the FUCK

      For some reason it didn’t sink in to me from reading the article how weird and sinister this is

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      Dude, that’s beyond creepy. I know of 1 christian that will certainly never install that thing. Not that I can right now, since I have absolutely no Google or Apple store at my disposal. #degoogled all the way.

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      I wish it was never invented in the first place. I would much rather have a world where we argue over which scientific theory, or whatever, is right—rather than the one we have now, where a majority argue about whose ‘flying spaghetti monster,’ unseen for centuries (if ever), is better and why it trumps even the most solidly proven scientific facts.

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        Scientific theory doesn’t tell you to love your neighbor nor does it give you strength. Religion is important no matter the specific beliefs.

        You don’t need to be Muslim or Jewish yourself but you could at least try to be respectful. We don’t need any more hate in the world.

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          Scientific theory doesn’t tell you to love your neighbor

          It doesn’t and religion shouldn’t need to, in fact if the only thing making you a general good person is a religion, then you’re not a good person. Morals and personal strength can and should be derived from other sources.

          We don’t need any more hate in the world.

          Religion is directly responsible for the bulk of the hate, in case you haven’t looked at the world around you. How many wars were started in the name of a religion? Whole groups of people are being discriminated against because of religion right now. There’s a war right now because of religion. X religion people hate Y religion people just because they believe in a slightly different flying spaghetti monster. Countless lives throughout history have been lost in the name of x or y religion.

          A world without religion would still have hate, crime and greed because humans are humans, but it would be so much better than currently.

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      As it turns out, the vast majority or “religion” is completely harmless and is kept personal. The problem is the 1% who are constantly the target of bad PR (for good reason)

      What are you saying? Are you advocating mass arrests? Good luck finding every Jewish, Christian, Muslim, and all other beliefs. Your statement seems overly broad.

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        Ah, yes. No religious wars and discrimination, no raped children, no mutilated babies, no subjugation. Religion is all fucking sunshines and chipmunks.

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    When people ring your bell to annoy you about religion, reply by trying to converting them into atheism or another religion

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      Maybe not the best idea. According to the article, using this app they can leave notes about you for other members to see. Talking about satanism would probably flag you for even more harassment.

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        Hmm I would not know that they are using an app. Anyway I don’t think we should make any concessions or be scared of those people and adapt to them.

        Noone has the right of making you swallow their religious views.

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      I just let my dog help me answer the door.

      He’s a big boy and very talkative. The proselytize can’t get a word in…

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      I do that all the time. I don’t care if you’re a christian, Muslim, Jehovah’s witness or whatever else, if you come to my house uninvited to tell me why I should follow any religion, be ready for a heated debate on why that’s not your place, I dont care what your leaders have made you believe. Its one thing to talk about Christ to tell anyone about Him, and then drop it and move on to a civil interaction, its an entirely different thing to splat your believes on people’s faces and telling people they will go to hell if they don’tdo what you tell them. We have friends of all religions and lack of religion, and we have never attempted to change them. They know what we believe in, we know what they believe in, and none of that makes any difference. I’m glad I dont live in the US, nothing more disgusting than mixing faith with politics.