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Seagoon_@aussie.zone to Melbourne@aussie.zone · 2 years ago

Daily discussion thread: 🐔 Wednesday, May 8, 2024

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Daily discussion thread: 🐔 Wednesday, May 8, 2024

Seagoon_@aussie.zone to Melbourne@aussie.zone · 2 years ago
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  • Thornburywitch@aussie.zone
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    Nope. And never were a rock band as such. They were called that, but they played blues/ska fusion.

    • AJ Sadauskas@aus.social
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      @Thornburywitch @useless_modern_god …with a *heavy* Chuck Berry influence: https://youtu.be/IK5gnx__M1M?si=Qw8r5XMEgasWMmK-

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      Do you have any sort of source or documentation to support your claim that Rolling Stones are NOT a rock band? Interviews with band members stating that fact? Or claims from other experts within the industry?

      Just curious.

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        Listen to the music. They’re primarily a blues band with a drummer. Some ska & Chuck Berry influences.
        Try listening to Paint It Black, Angie, Ruby Tuesday - these are straight run blues with drums.

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          @Thornburywitch @useless_modern_god A few more songs to compare.

          Here’s the Rolling Stones’ debut single, Come On: https://youtu.be/_iAQVGOzj4M?si=G4aXaHDYxsNccU-B

          Which was a cover of Come On by Chuck Berry: https://youtu.be/JgW6s8FPm_w?si=pu6K0qOb-_IBiyqg

          Here’s Can’t Catch Me by The Rolling Stones: https://youtu.be/IK5gnx__M1M?si=NP61dxgx1oJLMd_0

          And Can’t Catch Me by Chuck Berry https://youtu.be/9jKrHzps0XM?si=2H9Wbjy4NhousbTk

          (Just as an aside, John Lennon was a fan of that one too, apparently. Note the second verse begins “Here come a flattop, he was movin’ up with me”. Lennon borrowed that line for Come Together and got a lawsuit for his efforts.)

          Rolling Stones, Sweet Little Sixteen: https://youtu.be/n-tYCwzTrrU?si=DDynnP4-MzxshiLp

          And the Chuck Berry original: https://youtu.be/ZLV4NGpoy_E?si=xysXmQVLaih_w01A

          (The Beach Boys really liked that one — just listen to Surfin’ USA sometime. Like John, they got sued for their efforts.)

          One more Chuck Berry songs for reference:

          Maybelline: https://youtu.be/v124f0i0Xh4?si=0rv4e1rcPFzw3sIF

          Now. Here’s some of the lyrics from You can’t always get what you want by the Stones.

          “I went down to the Chelsea drugstore
          To get your prescription filled
          I was standing in line with Mr. Jimmy
          And, man, did he look pretty ill
          We decided that we would have a soda
          My favorite flavor, cherry red
          I sung my song to Mr. Jimmy”

          Note the African American Vernacular English.

          How many British people have you met who go around talking about drugstores?

          Mick’s almost going the full Iggy Azalea here trying to capture the lyrical style and delivery of Chuck Berry: https://youtu.be/Ef9QnZVpVd8?si=AjR8vc1MJrwVS_Un

          To my ears there’s a clear line that goes from the jump blues ( https://youtu.be/YhELpSeeipg?si=EYK0bdIx_hOhDss7 ) and artists like Big Joe Turner: https://youtu.be/YhELpSeeipg?si=JYqKpLB_jauoYsVL

          To Chuck Berry in the '50s, to the Rolling Stones in the '60s.

    • useless_modern_god@aussie.zone
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      2 years ago

      TIL the Rolling Stones are not a rock band.

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