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    No work for me today - colon went boom about an hour before I was due to start and my clients were a 97 yo and another household where both the client and the carer have autoimmune issues, so I phoned in and said ‘it could be moving stress or it could be something, what do?’ I was told very firmly regardless to Stay Home.
    Back to the packing!

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    Ughh… I was just thinking how nice it was that there was an unscented soap I like at Coles, so I could just pop it in with the rest of my basics. Go to buy another box …and it’s gone 😭 Guess I’m doing this weeks shop at Woolies and getting a few boxes from there in case it’s discontinued.

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    Breakfast 🍏🍎🍐🍊🍋🍈🫐🍓🍇🍉🍌🍒🍑🥭🍍🥥🥦🥑🫛🍆🍅🥝🥬🥒🌽🥕🥐🍠🫚🥔🧅🥯🍞🥖🥨🧀🧇🥞🧈🍳🥚🥓🥩🍗🍖🫓🍕🍟🍔🌭🥙🧆🌮🌯🥗🍲🍜🍝🥘🍛🍣🍱🥟🦪🍥🍘🍚🍙🐠🍤🪼🦀🐙 🍗🥮🍢🍡🍧🍰🧁🥧🍦🍨🎂🍮🍭🍬🍫🥜🌰🍪🍿🍯🥛☕️🍵🍺🍶🥤🧋🧃🥂🍷🥃🍸🍹🧉🔋

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    I’ve been getting to sleep super early (around 8/9pm) for over a week, and it’s been going well, it’s nice to be awake for sunrise. But tonight it just wasn’t working. Tossed and turned from 8 until 10, finally got to sleep sometime around 10:30 or maybe 11, then had a bad dream and scared myself awake by 4. Can’t get back to sleep, so I guess my day starts now

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      I had a haunted dream, dreamt of a big building with haunted medieval face carvings that moved, then a big relief carving of an elf came to life and tried to kill us.

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        I don’t even remember what was in my dreams last night, but I do remember it wasn’t fun

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    Up early after Zooks woke me up by sitting on my shoulder, so I decided I’d tackle some more clearing and sorting.
    Last day of work before the move. Kinda wish I’d taken this week off as well, but I suspect I would have faffed around more if I had. Plus I wouldn’t have scored free cat food from one of my clients after her cat sadly died.

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    Was awake at 4am and grabbed to cat for a cuddle in bed. Cat fell asleep cuddled up. Cat suddenly wakes up some time later, and leaps into the air off the bed. Lucky I only got a small scratch.

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      My spicy cat came in for snuggles at 4am too. Very unusual behaviour from her. She ended up with her front paw on my mouth, but I couldn’t move because snuggles!

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        Miss Meow has been coming in for cuddles a lot more now that the weather is cooling down. I sleep on my side so she usually curls up on top of me. She’s pretty good at moving off if I roll over and then climbing back on again, but if I move too much she either curls up at the end of the bed or leaves the room entirely. If she is still there in the morning she is generally displaced by Mr Woof’s enthusiastic jumping when he decides it is time to get up.

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    I wish I was a crow. I’m only 2km away from somewhere I need to go via crow, but 4km by car or 6km by PT

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      It took 38 minutes there, and 46 back, getting there involved 3 connections across 2 modes of public transport (excluding walking). Returning was just 1 mode, but did involve ~25ish minutes of walking because the schedules didn’t line up

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    Strange question: How do you ask for a nice big warm hug from your partner without ASKING. I feel like a need some spontaneous affection, like I come home and just get a bear hug or something. But asking totally ruins the feeling of the surprise. Coffee is like a lukewarm limp handshake for the soul, but I will take it!

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      hugs

      I suggest when you get home you give the hugs. Do it all the time. Hopefully hugs will become more of a thing and you receive hugs too.

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      Is this a thing specifically about what happens when you come home? If so you might want to think about role shifting and how that is working for both of you - you have had time on the trip home from work to mentally make the shift from your working role to your home role, but she is going instantly from her role of mother to partner and might need more time to mentally make that shift. Talk to her about what she thinks about it, but it might work better for you both if you start a routine along the lines of you taking tiniest for a while to give her some time alone to just regather her thoughts and prepare to be “partner” and not just “mother” - maybe take a shower, go for a walk, whatever works for her.

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        Good point, but this predates the kid. I think its just a fundamental difference in love languages I guess.

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      RAAAR bear noises, approach with arms outstretched

      casual touching is something you foster, but if they ain’t picking up the messages a spoken reminder of your needs is a must.

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      Maybe say to her “sometimes I really want a hug without asking so when I put my arms out would you be ok with that”. If you do that often enough it becomes habit.

      I feel sad you have to ask for a hug but if you don’t communicate with your partner then they don’t know what you want.

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        Yeah its deffo come up before, gets addressed for a few weeks then sort of falls apart, which is fine cause the need is addressed but in a few months I’ll need it again and we just kind of spiral.

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        Also important to recognise you might have different “love languages”… Yours might be physical touch and theirs might be words of affirmation for example… Which is the case for us. I actually need to remind myself that my partner needs me to hug her…

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    I’ve been reading a lot of stories on Reddit about people who are caretakers for elderly relatives and there are an alarming number of people who are the victims of abusive relationships with their parents - often being groomed from childhood to care for their parents and grandparents at the expense of their own lives. It does make me wonder how many examples of elder abuse are the result of people who have been victimised hitting back.

    Coercive control is generally talked about in terms of romantic relationships but it is a major theme in the way a lot of these people have been treated by their parents/families. There was one woman who was put into a caretaking role for her grandmother when she was 12 and raised with the expectation that caring was her only role in life - to the extent that she was pushed to become a nurse so that she would be able to provide full time nursing care for her grandmother in the future.

    The worst part is that a lot have had all their options taken away - they have given up their working lives so have no money and no employment history, they have not had a chance to establish relationships and families of their own, and staying in an abusive caretaking relationship is the only reason they are not homeless. There are so many parallels to the experience of “battered wives” who eventually retaliate against their abuser.

    I’m not sure there is any real solution to the mess that is human relationships, but hopefully the increased awareness of coercive control will help people recognise it in all sorts of relationships and increase the support available to people to get out of them.

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      This has been a brilliant discussion and thankyou for posting about this issue. I’ve just read it now and it all resonates with me very strongly. It seems I share a lot of the experiences posted here, as someone who was groomed by abusive parents to be their carer and worse. With both parents passed a long time now, it surprises me sometimes how fresh the anger, hurt and indignation feels. I guess I was raised with it and it never really goes away, just hides for a while.

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      There are so many parallels to the experience of “battered wives” who eventually retaliate against their abuser.

      What happens is there is a tipping point when women become physically stronger than men. It’s because women continue to do physical work around the house and men lose their testosterone and do no exercise. It’s around age 65-70.

      and increase the support available to people to get out of them.

      family support is the best way but what happens is abusers tend to isolate their victims

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        Some abusers do worse than isolate their victims, they manage to get others on side supporting their abuse. In romantic relationships it might take the form of acting charming and winning over the family with public displays of affection so that when the partner expresses concern about problems their own family dismiss them. In parent/child relationships it can take the form of treating one child as a scapegoat so the whole family learn to treat them differently - a lot of the stories in the caretaking forum have people with extended families all presuring them to stay in abusive caretaking relationships while they offer nothing but criticism and blame the caretaker for being “selfish” if they ask for any support. Escaping abuse from one person is hard enough, when your entire family joins in it would be near impossible ☹️

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          I walked away from my family of origin. Parent and sibs. I refuse to play the role they have assigned me. I am not that person.

          They responded with surprise and scorn. They know why.

          I do worry for my bro who has been doing caring for elderly father, I did offer alliance, friendship and help but he declined.

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      My father raised my sister and I to be completely dependant on him, so much so that he actively kept us from learning about the world.

      The damage he did to me in particular, led me down an incredibly bad path because I literally didn’t know better.

      He died alone.

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        He died alone.

        I just wanted you to know the power of that statement shook the room I’m sitting in.

        The same will happen to my mother, if you can call her that.

        Fuck emotionally abusive parents. Why have a kid if your just gonna abuse/neglect 'em?

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          Why have a kid if your just gonna abuse/neglect 'em?

          That’s why. That’s what they think relationships are.

          The worst get enjoyment from abusing others.

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        I’m sorry you had to go through that. 🫂

        Families can be awful to each other, but we seem to have a bizarre cultural blind spot to abuse that occurs beyond childhood (as well as to the real ongoing impacts of that abuse). Once you are an adult people tend to act as if everything is a misunderstanding that can be resolved through some stereotyped Hallmark movie moment and all old people are assumed to be sweet and innocent. No, some people are just awful and they don’t magically change once they hit a certain age. People dying alone is often blamed on a cold and uncaring society but in reality it can also be people lying in the bed they made for themselves.

        If we want to make meaningful changes in our society we need to accept that multiple different stories can be true and relationships are complicated - people can be both victims and perpetrators, they can have good relationships with some people and bad relationships with others and single cookie cutter responses based on unrealistic stereotypes often do as much (or more) harm as they do good.

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      @RustyRaven @briongloid i’ve seen versions of this on my family and my mother wanted me to fit into this role when my dad died.
      My cousin was adopted for this reason inmind basically an indentured servant to her adopted family. She had 4 older siblings with a ton of money that could easily afforded to put mom in a nursing home. Instead she had to do elder care until my auntie passed away from Alzheimer’s. No family of her own, worked in retail for a day job to support herself.

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        It looks to be a fairly common situation - hopefully the reddit sub is a self-selected group with a higher than normal number of people in that position, but so many people posting there are miserable and feeling trapped. I went on there looking to get a bit more of an idea of what caring will be realistically like (I’m intending to care for my mother in future) and was not really prepared for the sheer volume of people who are being abused and don’t realise it. I mean I love my Mum, but I would not care for her if it would leave me broke and homeless, and if she develops dementia and starts to scream 24/7 or smear her own shit all over the walls she’s going into a home. No one should be in a position where they feel they have no choice but to live like that.

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          @RustyRaven yeah we villianize nursing homes but I’ve yet to see a situation where elder care turns out to be an actually a healthy relationship between the adult children and thier parents.
          I want it work, if I had a better relationship with my mother I’d do more if it.

          Also this lenses given more meaning to the ‘old maids’ of previous centuries. We’re they unmarriageable? or did thier parents intend on having a full time caregiver in thier dotage and ‘groom’ them to become caregivers?

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            I’m pretty sure the full time caregiver role was by design, often the youngest daughter. But the way everything worked was different back then and most people got assigned roles in life rather than being able to choose. Being a caretaker back then would have come with a home and board, which was about all most people could hope for at that time. Sometimes we have a similar idea happening now - one child becomes a caretaker and in turn inherits the family home. But too often now I think we have moved towards the idea that you (or more often that someone else) should care for someone out of “love” alone and have forgotten that does not pay the bills.

            I think a lot of people’s negative attitude towards nursing homes is them mis-attributing their own decining abilities to the place they live, in much the same way some people refuse to go to hospital because “people die in hospitals”. Being stuck at home with insufficient support for your needs can be much worse than the institutionalised care of a residential home. Especially in situations where you are expecting other people to juggle full time work with a caring role being in a nursing home can be a much better situation.

            There are definitely some people who have good experiences with caring for parents (which will hopefully be my experience!) but that can only happen if it is a free choice, not one forced on someone through guilt or coersion, and not when it leaves the carer with no resources to look after themselves. The “old maids” in the past would have generally gone on to be cared for by someone else in the family, or perhaps entered the church as a nun where they would have been cared for.

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              @RustyRaven yeah i’m the youngest daughter but I don’t get along with my mother and never have and now I live 3,000 miles away with my own life.

              My cousin was the youngest ‘daughter’ in airquote because she was adopted for this task in mind. Also there was no family home. They were renting, in Tahoe which is super expensive.

              My neighbor did this and she did get the family home but i’m pretty sure her brothers still have say in the matter even tho they didn’t do any work.

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                It seems to be common for people to leave the family home to all the children jointly and just give the carer the right to live there. If that is the case it can often lead to a situation where the other siblings resent paying a share of the costs of a home they can’t get any benefit from and maintenance is neglected. Even if it is inherited in full it can leave the carer unable to fully support themselves if they did not get a chance to establish themselves and save money independently first, again leaving them dependent on the good will of other family members to help them.

                Putting people into residential care or paying for home care is hugely expensive, it’s sad that so many people who are carers for family are not valued at even a fraction of what a paid carer would receive and are instead pushed into poverty. We are lucky in Australia that we at least have a carer’s pension available to help (and unemployment benefits if you stop caring), even if it is less than minimum wage. It sounds like some of the people in USA have literally nothing and are completely dependent on the person they are caring for. No matter how horrible a position they are in they can’t stop without becoming homeless.

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                  @RustyRaven we do have Society Security but this only works if you have a paying job that tracks your hours. And I’ve heard of programs attempting to address all these issues. In WA State there’s a ‘home health’ program where these family members can take a certification course and get paid minimum wage for doing the work they are already doing for free. And they get basic training on first aid & elder care.
                  The US is really 50+ different countries in some ways ( as the name itself implies).

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      I suppose to a very mild degree I’m going through this.

      When I go to the p’s (in their late 70’s) down the bellarine i’m expected to shop, cook, clean, garden, maintain the house (ladders, heavy stuff).

      We all get along well (usually).

      The benefit I get is free use of the place no questions asked. The reward is proximity to beach, can grow stuff, it’s an escape and the solitude is bliss etc.

      So far it hasn’t strained relationships. It is control, but the reward is something I’m glad I never threw away. Mental health wise that place has been amazing. Sure you have to do stuff. Some risky, some cumbersome and you can’t say no.

      My brother on the hand has refused to care and the resentment from p’s is real.

      I’m not sure where my mind stands on the matter.

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        I think most people with a healthy relationship will do some things for their parents as they get older. But there is a line where it becomes unreasonable - imagine that your parent’s live in a place you don’t like being in or get benefit from going to (which may be how your brother feels) and you are expected to give up all of your free time to do those things. I’d be pretty resentful of being expected to give up all of my own free time and happiness to be a worker bee for my parents. It sounds like you are currently in a position where you consider the balance between what you are giving and receiving to be fair, which is a positive thing for both you and your parents. But where you have mismatched expectations and priorities (which could be the situation with your brother) it can really tear relationships apart. (I’m not saying this is the actual situation in your family, just projecting a bit and using it as an example!)

        For my situation I think caring for my mother will work out well for both of us and should actually be financially beneficial as well. My sister on the other hand is in a completely different situation - she and her husband have been working towards being able to partially (or even fully) retire early and are looking forward to being able to enjoy their free time. Expecting her to give up what she and her husband have been working towards would be way too much, whereas for me giving up a job I’m not enjoying that much these days is a bonus! I’m anticipating my sister being the “fun daughter” that pops in to take mum out to lunch occasionally while I’m the one doing all the hard work and cleaning 🤣 . But that’s a role I am choosing of my own free will, not one that is being forced onto me. If it did not suit me we would work out other solutions.

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      This is absolutely so true and very rarely acknowledged or talked about. Both men and women can be abusive and commit coercive control in family relationships. The key attribute is an abuser will choose a victim they find vulnerable and work to keep them that way. For men it might be a female partner, for women they will often do it to a child or an elder. Male to female romantic relationships is visible but talking about other kinds of family coercive control is often laughed at or disbelieved, or worst of all, accepted as cultural norm. It is very very real and creates life long trauma for the victims. I think people who had normal childhoods can never really understand how toxic and devoid of love some parents can be.

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        The cultural norms part is definitely an issue here too - a lot of the people trapped in these caregiver roles either have other family members calling them selfish for wanting something different (I think we probably need to recognise that coercive control can be commited by groups of peoples as well as individuals) or have internalised that idea and think they are being selfish themselves. Seeing someone worrying about being selfish when they have given up everything else in their lives to care 24/7 for parents who are constantly abusive and require more physical care than one person can reasonably handle is heartbreaking.

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          One cultural norm is that little old ladies are weak and vulnerable.

          my FIL was a sexist ass , so sexist it could not cross his mind that his new wife was an abusive bitch who was after his money, not that he had much.

          His doctors told him she was abusive, his nurse, his family, but he was so wrapped up in the idea he was smarter than everyone that he couldn’t be told.

          She abused him so bad.

          But she was a little old lady and it would have been difficult to sue her.

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    I think I’m going to do it. I’m going to betray my barber and find another one.

    I can’t do these places that only accept walk-ins. I want to book a time and get it over and done with.

    I don’t want to sit in a barber’s for an hour watching a Ministry of Sound playlist waiting to get my hair cut

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      I can’t do these places that only accept walk-ins. I want to book a time and get it over and done with.

      RIGHT?! 5-10 years ago this was amazing! These days having to wait friggin sucks!

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        I think no bookings and cash only is meant to evade the taxman but it’s not convenient enough for me to want to help the barber out

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    sigh Misplaced my wallet earlier this week and I really needed it today.

    Hopefully when I get home I’ll be able to find it, highly unusual that it wasn’t in my bag today as I thought I put it back in there earlier in the week.

    Stressing about it.

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      doesn’t help you right now but for when you find it again: sticking an airtag in mine has been one of the better decisions of my life!

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      Many years ago when I was living with my ex and his parents (I think I was 20), I came home from work in a foul mood and flung my wallet. Couldn’t find it, had to cancel and get cards reissued, whole big kerfuffle.

      A year or so later, I found it in the back of the closet 😑

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        What a pain that must have been for you to have all your cards reissued. Well hopefully I’ve just left it on the recliner or my desk at home and all will be good.

        I remember having to go to the bank on Monday so that’s why my wallet was taken out of my bag and I drove home with it in my pocket but blanks all round about what I did with it after I got home.

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      I realise this isn’t exactly helpful, but I’m curious: What is in your wallet?
      Mine has a credit card, public/private health cards (these cover the whole family), a drivers license and a Public Transport card. Literally nothing else. I never have cash.

      The Credit card never actually gets used because my phone handles payments. I don’t use the health cards all that often. I rarely need my drivers license. That leaves the smartrider. It’s honestly the only thing I ever really need in my wallet. Once the phone can do public transport trips in Perth, I could honestly go weeks without my wallet.

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        My license, bank cards, racv membership,and cash that I urgently needed to return to a friend of mine at work this week.

        I don’t have enough money for my friend if I can’t find my wallet.