• sexy_peach@beehaw.orgEnglish
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      6 months ago

      It runs on any old raspberry pi in your house, can be used by family and friends as well. Has iOS and Android apps… I have had good experiences with the easy to set up https://snikket.org/ XMPP server.

    • harc@szmer.infoEnglish
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      6 months ago

      Actually… a bridge between XMPP, Matrix and Fedi-based private messages would be interesting.

  • poVoq@slrpnk.net
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    6 months ago

    I have been advocating for a while how easy it is to integrate a lightweight XMPP server with fediverse instances. The accounts can be easily linked and the user address is the same.

    Here on slrpnk.net for example every member automatically also has an XMPP account.

    • Ademir@lemmy.eco.br
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      6 months ago
      offtopic

      Você fala português também! Fiquei surpreso outro dia que vi sua postagem 😅

    • Skull giver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl
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      6 months ago

      I don’t think XMPP will work from browser frontends without some kind of custom proxying interface to avoid blocked ports.

      Matrix will, though, that’s just JSON over HTTPS. I don’t know if any services offer automatic Matrix accounts with Fediverse accounts, though.

      • poVoq@slrpnk.net
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        6 months ago

        Every modern XMPP server supports XMPP over HTTPS (via BOSH or Websockets) and it works just fine.

        But I wasn’t actually taking about integrating it in the UI of the fediverse instance itself. Which would be nice to have, but really not vital at all if you have a nice mobile chat client.

  • fishos@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    6 months ago

    “Hey bro! Here’s some 20 year old program! We should totally reinvent it today! It’s not like anyone has been working on this exact thing for the last 20 years!”. Wtf is with the younger generations obsession with “retro tech”?!? “Look bro, I can do the same thing we can do now, but slower and worse!”

    Also Matrix. If you’re gonna suggest something, maybe make sure it doesn’t already exist.

    • poVoq@slrpnk.net
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      6 months ago

      "Look bro, I can do the same thing we can do now, but slower and worse!”

      Best description of Matrix (in relation to XMPP) I read in a while 😎

      • fishos@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        6 months ago

        All these people “rediscovering” old tech like we didn’t abandon it for a reason. No, I don’t want to build a PC out of old Commodore 64s that barely works and needs to be coded in assembly when I can literally get a mini PC that’s 100x more powerful for $120.

      • interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml
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        6 months ago

        XMPP doesn’t have link previews or posting, photo albums, even the idea of a picture with caption text us foreign. No comment reaction, retraction or replies. Inline video or video stream, lol no, even gifs don’t work. Talking or video chat ? Not even in your dreams. No wonder the youths hang out on discord

        • bamfic@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          6 months ago

          I don’t give a shit about any of those things. I’m fine with chat that just doea chat.

          • interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml
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            6 months ago

            I think the few remaining devs agree with you. We think this suck & look forward to whatever comes next. Xmpp is stuck in the past.

        • poVoq@slrpnk.net
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          6 months ago

          You are very outdated in your info about xmpp. Most of the stuff you mention is available these days.

            • poVoq@slrpnk.net
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              6 months ago

              Gajim will have some more of that in the next version, Monocles or Cheogram have more modern features than Conversations and Siskin is very outdated feature wise and you should probably replace it with Monal.

              That said it is not true that the three clients you mentioned have none of that. Sure they don’t have all of it, and there is some feature mismatch between them, but you are making it sound much worse than it is.

              Oh and you can always use Movim which has most of the features you mentioned.

              • interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml
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                6 months ago

                Thanks, I told the ios users to give monal a try. One responded it didn’t work last time he tried. I will try the android app.

                I think the most annoying is tge lack of opengraph support, bot or server side if it has to be. But no url preview suuuuuucks

                • singpolyma@lemmy.ml
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                  6 months ago

                  Cheogram Android has the send half of URL preview. I will be adding display on the receive side this year when I get the time.