• solsangraal@lemmy.zip
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    4 months ago

    the party of “small government,” once again, wants the government to police everything you do with your own junk

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    To everyone interested: Mullvad and IVPN accept XMR as payments and do not store logs.

    Keep your bits going the way you want them lads

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      There’s a certain special irony in Crypto-Bros like Peter Thiel and Elon Musk bankrolling JD Vance so he can push Project 2025 through Congress and force gooners to kickback a rent to Crypto-Bros in order to jerk it.

      Libertarian Dystopia here we come!

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        I’m pretty sure there’s nearly zero overlap between Monero users/people who actually use cryptocurrency as payment and “crypto bros” (those who use Bitcoin and shitcoins as investments)

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    Project 2025 is 100% political and partisan. Due to that, there are false claims being made about Project 2025.

    I condem the organization but not all statements are true due to it’s entirely political nature.

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      I really don’t get the fearmongering around Project 2025. It’s just a piece the Heritage Foundation released as a giant wishlist. Trump himself said he didnt support it over on Truth Social. And if congress is still split, there will be total gridlock, so even IF this was the official party platform, nothing would get done.

      There is a lot of solid ideas in the document, but there is also a lot of hot dogwater.

      As for porn, it is protected under the 1st amendment. There has been several court cases about this. If a law was passed, it would be challenged and likely struck down. Having said the most of the rhetoric in the document really points to the availability of books like Gender Queer being freely available in school libraries. This wasn’t explicitly stated in the document, but you can draw conclusions from the context of the rhetoric. But yes one of the authors said they wanted porn banned.

      Now, preventing kids from accessing porn is a reasonable ask, but this ask has to come with a measure of privacy. Nobody wants their ID floating around in a PornHub database being tied to the type of porn they watch.

      Along the same lines, parents should have a say in what books their child is allowed to consume within reason. I read gender queer out of curiosity after all of the outrage about it. That book should not be free to grab by minors. Perhaps there should be a “restricted section” accessible via permission slip from the parents. That way the books can remain present and accessable to those whose parents say it’s okay. It’s just an idea, but one that I have yet to see floated.

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        Trump himself said

        And he’s got a proven track record of honesty so no reason to doubt that.

        There has been several court cases about this.

        Have you been living under a rock this year or just pretending to be unaware of how blatantly corrupt SCOTUS is?

        Along the same lines, parents should have a say in what books their child is allowed to consume within reason.

        Then they should consider spending some time parenting their children instead of shopping for red baseball caps, harassing school librarians, and consuming culture war propaganda.

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      Perhaps there are some false claims, but this isn’t one of them. This is their proxy for making being openly gay illegal again because they consider any queer representation to be pornographic.

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    If that legitimately happens and makes it into law in a broadly enforceable way rather than a “this person who I don’t like was caught checks notes watching porn! book em!”, which is definitely what it would be like basically every law that came before it, I guarantee that the government would collapse within about three weeks if less. Which I think is maybe a good rule of thumb, that if your law would collapse society if it were enforced equally, it should not be a law.

    Do not underestimate the power of the gooners when they are kept from the goon.

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      I guarantee that the government would collapse within about three weeks if less.

      Oh sure. Famously, whenever a worksite implements a blacklist on pornographic websites, the workers immediately begin screaming and flailing and eating each others faces.

      Do not underestimate the power of the gooners

      Generally speaking, the power of the gooner is to compile 500 TB of questionably legal pornographic data on a PLEX server in their basements and ride out the porn-pocolypse as a bunch of horny hermits.

      But the theory that this is going to be the last straw and hordes of angry horny dudes are going to take to the streets in a mass labor action is about as likely as the one where Tech Bros were going to take to the streets over Net Neutrality or women were going to have a sex boycott over the Abortion Ban or the hippies were going to tear down Wall Street over the drug war.

      Americans are shockingly pliant and far more prone to simply turn to black market cartels than actively resist policing.

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        I was being hyperbolic, but, a famous part of the prohibition was the organized crime which was both kind of naturally occurring at the time and was created specifically to traffic booze. Illegal material can’t be protected by legal means, obviously, and so in order to trade it, you basically have to create your own police force, your own privatized military. a gang, a mob. That’s how we got nascar and shit, the rumrunners. If you made porn illegal, I’d imagine it would just be added as kind of another form of valuable property which would be traded around by gangs which would see increased power and are kind of inherently anti-institutional. So, turning to black market cartels is a form of resisting policing, it’s a form of anti-institutional action, I’d say, as it gives more economic power to anti-institutional organizations.

        I’d also say, you know, I mean, the hippies did go to wall street in 2008, so that’s something. We had the big liberal feminist pussy hat shit sometime after that, which I’m not as familiar with. More recently we had BLM which was possibly the highest level of street marching we’ve seen basically ever, and then we’ve seen like two riots to try and overturn elections, one of which was successful. We’ve seen more recent campus protests which are still constantly ongoing despite a lack of media attention. I don’t think it’s as absurd as you think, that something kind of stupid like porn getting banned might be the tipping point, especially considering the pretty steady upward trend that we’ve seen with political action concerning other somewhat disconnected issues.

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          a famous part of the prohibition was the organized crime which was both kind of naturally occurring at the time and was created specifically to traffic booze

          Quite a few political families profited handsomely from alcohol prohibition. The Kennedys are probably the most famous, but the political system was rife with corruption. If you’ve ever watched Boardwalk Empire, the story was based on the notorious Atlantic City sheriff Enoch Johnson.

          So, turning to black market cartels is a form of resisting policing, it’s a form of anti-institutional action, I’d say, as it gives more economic power to anti-institutional organizations.

          The ability to selectively enforce prohibition gives you ample opportunity to profit from the gaps in the system. Sex work has long had a relationship with local politicians and police, and I have no doubt that criminalization of porn would create an huge market for kickbacks to enforcement organizations.

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    Americans getting dumber and dumber over the years. i thought the “stupid white men” era was the peak, but i stand corrected

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      What part of “Pornography should be outlawed” don’t you understand. That also entails owning and viewing porn.

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        Outlawed isn’t equal to prison, it could be just a penalty fee, so it’s not like if you see pornography you will go to jail like OP make it look.

        Wokie sensationalism not too much different than west media propaganda tbh.

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          Holy fucking shit how have you not learned to shut your dumb redneck mouth after being downvoted of every one of your last 100 comments.

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          So, why should people be fined for watching porn? Why does christian puritan views be pushed to everyone? Party of small government my ass.

          “It’s not that bad” isn’t good enough. Why is that there, at all? Why should I somehow deserve to be in prison?

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        If it actually does entail owning and viewing porn then the quote should match the claim. The document is like 1000 pages, if its in there then it needs to be quoted in the graphic.

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        Sending nudes to your partner counts as production and distribution of pornography

        This obviously deserves the death penalty

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    I like the “book 5 | pdf: 37” part it makes it look like you’re quoting the Bible.