Upvoting posts is fine, but Karma I can do without. Back on Reddit sometimes I help somebody with something and I get maybe 3 or 4 Karma. Make a stupid joke in a popular Thread and get that hundred fold. Karma is useless.
I wouldn’t mind some sort of rating scale at least, but nothing infinitely growing like reddit karma.
I found the karma useful to see if someone had a relatively well used account, was a karma farming bot, a shit poster, a lurker, or an asshole.
Maybe just a scale to determine an accounts total relative ratio of upvotes to down votes?
If we keep it without karma, bagdes and other reward crap then the only reward is the information of the post itself, the plus that ir brings to the people involved. As a forum should be.
Man so far i am loving lemmy and the fediverse. Clunky? Yes. But i love this real sense of community that was lost at reddit. Losing RIF was truly a blessing in disguise. I hope more people will move here but even if they don’t, I am ok. I am sick and tired of my data being something that goes to feed the pockets of some corporation. Fuck it.
Clunky is good, as my dad says: “imperfection adds character, a sort of rustic appeal”
I noticed that I don’t have a karma or upvote counter for my account, and I felt free. Let’s keep it that way. It just encourages more ego and skin in the discussion ahead of focusing on the content and further penalizes users who sometimes have an unpopular, but still civil and constructive, opinion. I don’t want an echo chamber effect.
I imagine that implementing such a metric could become quite confusing if it turned out that not all instances permitted all communities in the future. If this is already the case, please excuse me. I’ve been on Lemmy for one hour total. Solving that consistency problem couldn’t be easier than just not solving it.
Hate to break it to ya but that’s just your UI from whatever app you’re using; you definitely have a “karma” score / upvote score, currently at 47 comment upvotes total.
+1 lemmy gold to you stranger!
Take this SiLvEr. It’s all I can afford.
lmfao that made me laugh out loud. it caught me off guard
I love that vintage silver is back, and the sloppy photoshop job to slap Lemmy onto it only makes it better.
Not even the effort to type out Lemmy themselves, ripped straight from a webpage. Perfection
Totally agree. I don’t want karma. It was useless anyways.
For the most part. The reality is upvotes for people serve as dopamine boosts and they crave it. It helps drive engagement, and of course addiction.
Well it’s also useful feedback for training neural networks to make engaging posts.
Same thing, really.
Karma’s a bitch or something.
Karma is the wind in my hair on the weekend.
Honestly I don’t mind the upvote and downvote system but i don’t want reddit replicated.
At this point, I reckon no one on Lemmy wants Reddit replicated in any shape or form…
As a recent refugee, if there was a carbon copy of reddit owned by some sort of non profit organization or funded by public money I would most definitely use that. Provided of course the monetization crap and ads were removed and I can have my Apollo app back.
Nothing wrong with this new federated direction we are taking now, but what made reddit shitty is corporate greed and an infantile moron as decisionmaker, not that it was centralized.
If you want an Apollo style Lemmy app, I would wholeheartedly recommend wefwef. It looks just like Apollo but it uses Lemmy instead of Reddit.
I already installed it yesterday, good suggestion. It looks and feels 99% like Apollo, only that it’s a bit sluggish here and there (though that’s probably just a matter of time until optimized). For anyone missing their Apollo app this is the thing to get.
Let’s not, we’re all better off without imaginary internet points.
As someone who used reddit when Dig was still big; let Karma die, it’s so stupid.
100% agree! It’s so nice right now to not see dumb posts when users trying to karma farm. I have been loving Lemmy so far. I just hope we get more users so we can get more engagement from the smaller communities.
Why?
Posts should have the ability to be promoted or buried, to help highlight interesting stuff.
But why people? I don’t get it. Isn’t this place more like a forum than a social network?
Leave that crap for Facebook etc…
Good. Karma just incentivizes the monetization of accounts. Without karma there is less incentive for bots and grifters since visibility/prominence/influence can no longer be bought and sold.
What was the point of karma? I never understood the value in having it.
It’s my karma and I want it now!
I never understood this obsession with internet points to the point where people are willing to farm them. I guess on Reddit there was a monetary incentive, with people selling accounts with certain amounts of karma. Honestly to me it’s always been more like “cool, I got 48 upvotes on this post” or whatever, and move on with my day.
How do the comment/post scores on Lenny compare to Karma? At first glance, they seem quite similar!
If people really want karma, they can write a 3rd party app to total their comments and posts scores. This isn’t reddit.
Why do they even want karma? So they can monetize bots with high karma and plague the place with automated content? Screw that.
but my imaginary internet points :(
They hold the Karma Anonymous meetings at the local church on Tuesday nights
The Karma whores aren’t church going folks LoL.
If you held the meeting online, out of someone’s mom’s basement you’d probably be closer to the Truth…
If you held the meeting online, out of someone’s mom’s basement you’d probably be closer to the Truth…
Isn’t it like a third of millennials living with their parents? I do for financial and mental health reasons, and lets me save so much more. Plus, living alone can suck for some people, and I trust randos as roommates about as far as I can throw them.
To anyone suggesting karma is a good anti bot tool, remember there is karma whoring. Nothing is stopping a bot from spamming useless things, and interacting with other bot posts to build karma. This is already happening on reddit when you navigate to weird subs where all the content is coming from one account posting links to the same shitty tabloid site. Yet this content is getting upvotes from something.
Karma is security theater, I think the mods were the true anti-bot force.
not to play devil’s advocate here, but for the average interwebs John Q. Public user isn’t a karma “fence” that has to at least be climbed, better than nothing at all? but yeah of course its a false sense of security.
Karma wouldn’t work on Lemmy. I could just make an instance and run a script to give myself as much upvotes as I wanted.
I imagine you could have some sort of distributed karma system — e.g., each instance has its own notion of your karma. Calculating karma would then involve querying all federated instances and summing up the value. So now you’d need two instances, both federated with others, in order to karma hack. Not impossible, but more annoying. Alternately, you could only sum up the karma on particular instances, rather than all federated instances.
You just know some nerds would fucking love finding karma exchange rates and keeping tables. The same people who play eve in excel
you can play eve in excel!?
Can you not?
