• Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    You can criticize one bad thing without criticizing every other example of that bad thing. I don’t need to go through the list of every Republican president just to talk about how bad Trump was. I don’t need to go through the list of every serial killer to talk about how evil John Wayne Gacy was.

    Christianity and Islam are the world’s two biggest religions. Obviously, discussions about them will come up more than discussions about other religions in many parts of the world. “Yeah, but what about the Zoroastrians?” doesn’t really make much headway in such discussions and isn’t really relevant to them.

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      10 months ago

      I mean, how often are discussions about Islam “coming up” in your daily life?

      Is your only contribution to those “discussions” to criticize the religion?

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          10 months ago

          I don’t know you at all, just asking probing questions that people sometimes forget to think about while spending their so much of their brief moments of human connection spouting anger and hatred. That’s all.

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              10 months ago

              These “discussions on religion” that everyone is having that “migrate to islam” are still very much theoretical. Nobody here is asking for permission to publish a treatise that criticizes Islam.

              No, OP and everyone involved is asking for the right to criticize without being criticized back. Which absolutely is loaded rhetoric that is typically associated with hate and bigotry. Yes, everyone is allowed to say whatever they want on the internet, but everyone else is allowed to interpet and criticize back however they want.

              And in this case, bigots absolutely do criticize Islam, often with sweeping and inaccurate generalizations, in order to be racist without sounding racist. Negative atheism is often a shield for racism. So yes, I’m asking probing questions because it’s really hard to tell sometimes whether criticism of Islam is actually just diguised racism or just an atheist who wants to shit talk on religion and picks one he heard about in the news. And 9 times out of 10, the latter is an arguement from a position of ignorance and lacks any awareness of the complex sociopolitical factors that have shaped middle eastern/balkan nations as well as the religion of Islam.

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                  Um…unless it’s to call your criticism of Islam racist, right? Because that’s literally what OP is arguing for, no assumptions needed, a position you were defending above? Do you even know what you’re arguing with me about?

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                    10 months ago

                    Again- you can criticize anything about me. Do I have to repeat myself a third time?

                    That said- since Islam is not a race, I’m not sure how being against it is racist. I have no problem with Middle Eastern, South Asian or Southeast Asian people.