• EnderMB@lemmy.world
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    16 days ago

    Uhh, correct me if I’m wrong, but the total population of America is 335m. If 16m people are dying DAILY, your entire country will be dead by Christmas.

    If a 20th of the population dropped dead overnight, I would like to think that any nation would panic.

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      16 days ago

      They may mean tomorrow in the metaphorical sense. Like “the world of tomorrow” kind of sense.

      It also could just be an arbitrary/hyperbole number, to show how little the lives of the many mater to the news in comparison to the ceo.

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          16 days ago

          The number isn’t really the point though, if it’s the case of a metaphor. The trolly problem is usually set up with 1v5 people, but it’s just as arbitrary and hypothetical. The trolly problem could just as easily be set up as 1v100, because the actual number of people on the tracks is to a degree irrelevant to the morality of the question.

          This probably isn’t any different.

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      16 days ago

      The post never said 16m will die daily. It just says tomorrow. The 16m is probably the number of customers this guy’s company has and denies coverage.

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        16 days ago

        Even more specifically than that, it’s just telling you tomorrow that 16m with a preventable health issue will die, not when or how.

        Not correcting you, just adding a little clarification for how i read it

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      It’s about 9k a day. That’s just all deaths. Medically treatable and avoidable deaths is 624 a day. According to the only numbers I can find, but it’s wonky, so I’ll grant you it may not be precise, but it’s probably a good ballpark number.

      Even if it’s one person a day that dies without necessity of a preventable and treatable cause that universal healthcare would have fixed, that’s a lot of deaths. And it’s more than one CEO who likely thought very seriously about the question ‘‘is curing anyone a good business model?’’

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        16 days ago

        Not dead. Just whatever procedure, prescription, or test that was applied for was rejected.

        It’s not hyperbole, it’s just wrong to say they died. 16 million denials is bad enough.

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        16 days ago

        Nice, this was what I was expecting!

        I don’t agree with the post, and I think stretching the stats beyond meaning is more harmful than helpful.

        Now, if you were to frame this as 16m people NOT being treated for preventable illnesses that would likely be treated in most western countries, that is a damning statistic. It indicates that people are walking around ill/injured for no reason other than greed, draining hospital resources further. It also indicates a lack of quality in care, since those doctors that could be getting their reps in learning to administer specific drugs or procedures don’t get to because “insurance says no lol”.

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      16 days ago

      Only if you don’t replace the dying population. That’s why Republicans banned abortions and Democrats crrated open borders.