• GoodEye8@lemm.ee
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    23 hours ago

    Do you think killing someone is political only if the targets are politicians?

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      22 hours ago

      If the intent of the killing is to change the system or have political outcomes, then it is political.

      We have no indications that Luigi wanted anything other than one or maybe a handful more dead CEOs. That does not have political outcomes. Nothing has changed.

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        16 hours ago

        We have no indications that Luigi wanted anything other than one or maybe a handful more dead CEOs.

        But why did he want one or more CEOs dead?

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          14 hours ago

          Because he considered them evil parasites for the work they’re doing. Work that is still legal now after he killed one, because killing one doesn’t have any effect on the governing laws and overarching system.

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            13 hours ago

            You said intent not outcome. Him killing only one and it “not having any effect” is an outcome. His manifesto doesn’t say he intended to kill only one, his intentions were against the system not a single individual.

            Looking at the outcome and saying “that wasn’t political” is like saying Jan 6 wasn’t political because they failed to overthrow the government.

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              13 hours ago

              He did not have intent based on the obvious outcomes. He has at no point ever given any words about the killing with any political intent.

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                13 hours ago

                I don’t know what you’re lacking to not understand his manifesto and I don’t care because it’s not my job to improve your failed education. I’m not wasting any more time on you.

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                  13 hours ago

                  You’re 11 comments deep of demanding I accept your fanfiction based on evidence that doesn’t exist because it fits your own political narrative.

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                    11 hours ago

                    I guess next you’re going to call AI generation fanfic.

                    From Gemini:

                    Is this manifesto political? (removed the manifesto to save space)

                    Yes, this manifesto has strong political undertones.

                    Here’s why:

                    Focus on Systemic Issues: It criticizes the US healthcare system, the dominance of large corporations (like United), and the perceived corruption and greed within these entities. These are all significant political issues.
                    Calls for Action: While the author doesn't explicitly advocate for violence, the act itself and the language used ("parasites," "brutal honesty") suggest a desire to disrupt the existing power structures. This implies a call for change, which is inherently political.
                    Critique of Power Dynamics: The manifesto highlights the imbalance of power between corporations and the American public, arguing that the public has allowed this imbalance to persist. This analysis of power dynamics is central to political discourse.
                    

                    Disclaimer: This analysis does not condone the actions described in the manifesto.

                    Note: The indecipherable words make it difficult to fully understand the author’s intended message.

                    Same question with chatGPT.

                    Yes, Luigi Mangione’s manifesto contains political elements. It critiques systemic issues, such as the healthcare system in the United States, corporate power, and societal complacency. By highlighting the disparity between healthcare costs and life expectancy, as well as the influence of large corporations, the manifesto engages with political and economic structures.

                    However, the political nature of the document is more implicit than explicit—it critiques systemic issues but does not explicitly outline a political ideology or program. The tone also suggests a personal justification for extreme actions, which can blur the lines between political and personal motives.

                    It’s sad when even a braindead AI is smarter than you.