• WraithGear@lemmy.world
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    I was thinking about the protectionism though… like in order for the tariff to work, the us would have to also manufacture the good that is being tariffed. But we don’t produce a lot here…and also even if we did… i guarantee the us business would jack up the prices to be competitive with the foreign price After tariffs and pocket the money. Making the whole thing moot.

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      The “protectionism” falls flat the moment you consider that the tariffs blanket all goods. If you want to dramatically expand American industry, you don’t start by raising the price of steel and raw materials.

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        Yea no matter how you slice it, there are no good use of tariffs, and if one were to insist, then it would only be like just barley enough to push up the price above parity, and only on very select items. But then if the other country does it back it goes in favor to the nation that is more industrial.

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          But then if the other country does it back it goes in favor to the nation that is more industrial.

          Correct! That’s what Cavallo et al found when the Trump administration tariffed China in 2018. US profit margins decreased on both imports AND exports, while China’s remained largely unchanged.

          According to their analysis, American tariffs hurt Americans more than literally anyone else.

          Fun fact, the Trump Administration cited Cavallo et al as supporting evidence for their tariff calculations.

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            The soybean tariffs, china found other countries quite quickly into counter the tariffs, and they largely abandoned the US of soybeans export