Apple users bash new iPhone 15: ‘Innovation died with Steve Jobs’::Smart phone fans are griping about Apple’s new devices since the arguably anti-climactic announcement of the forthcoming iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus on Tuesday.

    • ShittyRedditWasBetter@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      Yeah bruh, you could have had a super fucking revolutionary sidekick, Windows PDA missing capacitive touch, of if you were really special a blackberry!

      The mental gymnastics of you people.

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          Doesn’t mean the iPhone wasn’t revolutionary.

          I was (and still am) a mobile app developer at the time. We had every major phone on the market in our office for testing purposes. Literally hundreds of different phones. You name any popular (and less popular) phone on the market at that time and I can guarantee you I’ve used it extensively.

          The iPhone was absolutely revolutionary. However, it wasn’t because of a specific piece of technology, it was execution.

          Symbian touch-screen phones existed, they were slow and laggy. The UI was nothing like the iPhone, which is built around directly manipulating UI elements with your finger. It seems obvious now, but back then it wasn’t. You could use the touch screen to manipulate a tiny scrollbar.

          The closest thing to the iPhone was the LG Prada (KE850), which had a capacitive touch screen and the same scrolling mechanism as iPhone. However, it was small, had a tiny screen and was relatively slow. The software was also very limited, it was basically a feature phone, not a smartphone.

          The iPhone was basically the first phone that got all of it right.

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              Apple coined the term App with the introduction of the App Store. They weren’t called that before the iPhone. That’s how influential the iPhone and its ecosystem were.

              I can’t stand Apple’s ecosystem, but pretending like it wasn’t a major shift is just weird.

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                  Apple did not invent the term “app”, “app store”, or the concept of an app store. There was an app store called App Store for NeXT in 1991 that Jobs knew about, and many similar systems in the intervening years.

                  The only thing different about Apple’s app store was the restriction on users’ ability to install apps from other sources.

                  Jobs was great at business, not at tech.

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                    NeXt was founded by jobs when he got kicked out of apple. Then, apple acquired NeXT, and jobs once again became CEO. So NeXT was basically jobs throwing a fit. I’d consider them basically apple.

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              It was absolutely a revolution.

              The relevant definition of revolution: “a dramatic and wide-reaching change in conditions, attitudes, or operation.”

              It didn’t matter if the technology already existed, hardly anyone was using it. Capacitive touchscreens existed, but there was no dramatic change, they were just used in the same way as resistive touchscreens. It was a different way of building a touchscreen, but very much an evolutionary change.

              The iPhone was a revolution because it caused a dramatic and almost overnight change in the industry. What techies usually fail to see it that technology doesn’t matter. What matters is how it is used and what it allows people to do.

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      i was working in mobile at the time, and it was my job to keep up with the leading tech. i was using a Palm Treo when the iPhone was released, which was arguably the most advanced PDA phone at the time with blackberry being the primary competitor.

      i vividly remember watching the announcement from the iphone and being shaken with how the device worked. the fact that you interact with it without a stylus, the highest resolution screen available on a PDA phone, combining the functionality of an ipod, phone, and rich HTML internet browsing device, and the fucking triple layered capacitive multi-touch touch screen were absolutely revolutionary. to say anything else is revisionist history. no one else had anything remotely like it.

      and anyone who knew anything about mobiles at the time knew it was revolutionary and that the world was changing that day.