• HalfSalesman@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    Do you apply the same lack of agency to everyone or just reactionary proles?

    If you dig far enough, nothing is technically anyone’s fault and free will is an illusion. Even the self deluding centrists, unhinged millionaire libertarians, and ineffectual gay liberals that I know you despise ultimately are just following their programming.

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      2 days ago

      If you dig far enough, nothing is technically anyone’s fault

      This is the nut of it. Social problems are systemic not individualistic and need to be solved systemically.

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        2 days ago

        Unless they’re a billionaire? Insurance Executive? Or if they’re a CIA spook? Or a White Supremacist internet influencer?

        Don’t get me wrong, in so far that a person can be “evil”, those people are. (And technically, good can come from them dying, it depends on the context, free Luigi & Tyler) I just see a lack of consistency, because for me, the impoverished/foreign bigot is also just as “evil”, they just lack the power to enact it.

        (And evil doesn’t exist in the same way that divine good also doesn’t)

      • Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        2 days ago

        Making excuses for them will prevent any systemic solutions.

        Everything your saying is just as true for sexual predators. We don’t allow them to roam freely just because it’s not their fault because locking them away doesn’t solve the underlying systmetic problem.

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          2 days ago

          Nobody is making excuses. And trying to pivot this to sexual predators is redundant. A lot of these people are in the human trafficking business, because its an extension of the cartel system that the US endorses across Latin America.

          You do need to recognize the problem as holistic, rather than just singling out individuals. Shutting down the CIA-backed human trafficking pipeline is more important than being angry at a single Cuban expat for voting wrong.