Here’s the process as I understand it (please correct my errors):

  1. USA likes Israel, a lot for some reason
  2. “Israel” attacks Iran. This whole thing is being done with the USA’s airplanes though.
  • Why does the USA love Israel so much?
  • What’s the logic here? Not just the conspiracy. But why now? Why at all? Is Israel gaining something that I’m not seeing? Destabilization the main goal? What’s the USA gaining here?
    • FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world
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      3 months ago

      Israel has some real, incontrovertible dirt on Trump that they are holding over him

      He’s also desperate to have the US at war so he can suspend elections, because he knows that he will be hurt by the midterms

      He’s also pathetically insecure, and history has traditionally looked back fondly at wartime leaders like Churchill and the like. He’s hoping for that

      And the worst motivation, but one that I sincerely believe is accurate, is that he wants to use nuclear weapons. He wants to be remembered as a president who pushed the button. He’s a child, and he wants to play with all the toys

      I hope he dies before he can do more harm

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        3 months ago

        He’s also pathetically insecure, and history has traditionally looked back fondly at wartime leaders like Churchill and the like. He’s hoping for that

        A key thing to note is that it’s normally defensive leaders that are looked back on fondly. Attacking another nation usually doesn’t give this boost, or at least not as significantly. Frequently it’s negative in fact.

        He’s too stupid to understand this though, if this is his reason. I don’t think it is though. At best, it’s a distraction. At worst, and more likely, it’s an excuse to implement policies that expand his powers, and maybe to prevent elections from taking place.

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        3 months ago

        I.have no.idea what they’d know.that isn’t public already. In the past I’d say the Epstein connection but that’s all public. What the fuck could be in the files we don’t know about?

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      3 months ago

      Russia is impotent to act. Iran had recent protests indicating that the regime is weak. China has not done anything preemptive and can’t do anything now because it’s too late.

      Best case protests reignites and replaces the regime with something less US hostile. Worst case denies China cheap oil and Russia some war materials for a while.

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      3 months ago

      In the past, there have been moves against Iran (sanctions and the sort that are worsening their already mismanaged economy) but the recent strikes have been down mostly because Iran doesn’t really have any allies that are able to support them should they get attacked. Russia has their invasion of Ukraine that they are grinding soldiers in, and the Assads have been overthrown in Syria. Their bad bad economy also means they have lots of domestic issues too, making them super vulnerable.

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        3 months ago

        and many of the naughty Iranian proxies have also been weakened through a hellfire of Israeli and American bombing, like the Houthis in Yemen, Hamas in Gaza, and Hezbollah in Lebanon.