I think this argument is silly. It’s like if you went Out in public and paparazzi started haunting everyone out on the street, all the time, even though you are no-one famous.
There is such a thing as privacy, and the fact that I uploaded a picture does not give some other random company the right to wholesale process my images.
if you went Out in public and paparazzi started haunting everyone out on the street, all the time, even though you are no-one famous.
While this is true, it’s important to understand that you have already given that right by just being out in public. If you can be viewed by the eyes of people, in a public place, then they can photograph you.
The difference is that if you can be obviously identified in the image and it is used commercially, you should be asked for a release or permission generally.
It’s a grey area in the context of scraping for AI, not because permission hasn’t been given, but because the technology is new and the laws haven’t been written yet.
The changes will happen but it takes time, particularly with a complex issue like this.
But not to be harvested by third parties to be used for God knows what. Sure the occasional meme is one thing (and can have an impact) but this impacts everyone, everywhere, all the time. It’s not just that one photo, it’s all photos of everyone and also other info like metadata, text posts etc. The fact we don’t even know how what and where the data is collected we don’t even know what they have combined into profiles.
And this does not even speak to potential harm that could come from incorrectly associated info in your profile.
I am a privacy advocate but I will have to disagree with you. There is no such thing as privacy on public places , or in the public internet. If you upload a picture to the internet publicly then it is publicly available to everyone.
We can disagree here. But if I upload a picture with a specific intent (sharing it in my insta feed for example) why do other companies then have the right to wholesale take these images and use them for other purposes?
I think they don’t.
And there is a serious constraint on privacy violations like taking my picture when I’m out and about, since the photographer can only be on one place at a time.
What we see here is privacy violations by automated systems on a scale never before seen. Just by taking the photos and processing them.
What? Someone downloaded photos that people willingly uploaded to a public network? You don’t say.
I think this argument is silly. It’s like if you went Out in public and paparazzi started haunting everyone out on the street, all the time, even though you are no-one famous.
There is such a thing as privacy, and the fact that I uploaded a picture does not give some other random company the right to wholesale process my images.
We should resist giving companies these rights.
While this is true, it’s important to understand that you have already given that right by just being out in public. If you can be viewed by the eyes of people, in a public place, then they can photograph you.
The difference is that if you can be obviously identified in the image and it is used commercially, you should be asked for a release or permission generally.
It’s a grey area in the context of scraping for AI, not because permission hasn’t been given, but because the technology is new and the laws haven’t been written yet.
The changes will happen but it takes time, particularly with a complex issue like this.
Except the GDPR is written. The right to privacy has been part of several rights charters. But I do agree that legislation does need to catch up more.
Except it’s not because these are photos people are choosing to post.
as someone who crossed a tourist hotspot to get to the cantina for some years, my experience can’t confirm your statement.
The problem there is someone taking photos of you without your consent, not AI analyzing the photos
But not to be harvested by third parties to be used for God knows what. Sure the occasional meme is one thing (and can have an impact) but this impacts everyone, everywhere, all the time. It’s not just that one photo, it’s all photos of everyone and also other info like metadata, text posts etc. The fact we don’t even know how what and where the data is collected we don’t even know what they have combined into profiles.
And this does not even speak to potential harm that could come from incorrectly associated info in your profile.
I am a privacy advocate but I will have to disagree with you. There is no such thing as privacy on public places , or in the public internet. If you upload a picture to the internet publicly then it is publicly available to everyone.
We can disagree here. But if I upload a picture with a specific intent (sharing it in my insta feed for example) why do other companies then have the right to wholesale take these images and use them for other purposes? I think they don’t.
And there is a serious constraint on privacy violations like taking my picture when I’m out and about, since the photographer can only be on one place at a time.
What we see here is privacy violations by automated systems on a scale never before seen. Just by taking the photos and processing them.