I don’t get it. Braiding live animals would be worse, right?
*slowly puts down garter snakes"
“Go on…”
Might taste better when roasted even
That’s an ordinary braid.
I could explain how you’d French braid meat but I don’t think anybody here wants that.
I don’t think anybody here wants that.
Talk for yourself!
Where is the French braiding meat OC?
You use beef tongue.
That’s for French kissing
I too would like to see French braided flesh
So when you do a French braid in hair, you start off with three small sections. Every time you fold over the outer sections, you incorporate more hair into those sections. This differs from a normal braid, which doesn’t increase the size of the three parts of the braid as you go along.
French braiding flesh would require a lot more flesh. Also it wouldn’t look nearly as tidy because the other ends of the flesh (those not in the braid) are not attached to anything (i.e. a scalp) so it would be a loose tangled mess.
There’s easier ways to make something grotesque and cursed.
Now I want to see it even more!
Shit, now I’m thinking about it and you’d need something big like a flank steak or a brisket. I don’t think a pork-loin would work since it’s not broad enough. You’d still need to probably butterfly it, and then fringe the edge so you had strands to work into the braid. Best I can think of would be more like braided filled pastry than anything else. Not a terrible sway to do a stuffed roast or roulade I guess.
I prefer to sprang my meat.
That’s called cooking. And we usually call it meat instead of dead animal, because it’s a specific part of the dead animal that’s tasty and nutritive once cooked.
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Dont forget the high amount of fat
Ya but braided meat is bad cooking. It wouldn’t cook evenly.
Huh? It would cook fine with proper technique, and the nooks and crannies would offer spaces for herbs and butter or similar to pool
Not cooking evenly is usually something desirable
Then why is it called well done? Checkmate carnist. /s
You eat pork rare?
Yes in germany we do eat pork raw. And we have the necessary food safety standards, where thst is perfectly fine. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mett
You never had a butterflied chicken thigh? Or even a leg of lamb? The meat isnt even thickness, you gotta cook it in a way that cooks it through while keeping the thinner parts edible.
You deserve the downvotes. Keep ordering delivery.
Putin surely could cook it correctly.
this post is something a vegan protester would put on their banners
i dont get it
Smokers are jokers
Yeah, we can be a pretty fun bunch.
See I don’t like people who impose vegetarianism and veganism but I really wish people would have more respect for dead animals.
Disgusting behaviour from some people
Where is the disrespect for the dead animal? I don’t get it. It just looks like somebody’s put overly emotive text on an image of somebody preparing food in a very fancy manner?
In a way this is even more respectful as it presents the meat in a unique and special way.
Personally I think the more effort is out into food, on the condition it’s being eaten, the more respect you’re giving to the animal.
Yeah that’s what I was thinking. Granted I also want to go the same way Diogenes wanted to
When asked how he wished to be buried, he left instructions to be thrown outside the city wall so wild animals could feast on his body
Honestly that’s based as fuck. Granted there’s the concern of spreading disease but it’s how I’d prefer it too
Look up Tibetan sky burials. They just stick your corpse on a mountain and the vultures feast away.
Weird to draw the line here, why would the respect start at preparation and not at the slicing and dicing?
If you want to make a point, albeit a shitty one, at least make sense.
I don’t like people who impose vegetarianism and veganism
You should though
No.
No.
No
It’s hilarious how lemmy users generally think of themselves as left wing but refuse to admit that veganism is both morally and sustainably the better option
I think most are willing to admit that. Admission does not equal conversation, though. I’m in that camp, but I am trying to cook more vegetarian meals – nowhere near 100%, but progress is progress.
Edit: I should clarify that I’m concerned with the environmental impact. I have no moral issues with eating meat. Environmentally, we’ve seen overwhelming evidence that vegetarianism would be beneficial, and that is why I am making an effort.
I think anyone who has lived on or around a farm, or has just come to understand everything involved, would have a problem “admitting” that. Non-Factory farming in a modern country is dramatically benefited from having meat livestock alongside the vegetables, not to mention that there isn’t really any better use for marginal land than to have farm animals like cattle on it. In fact, there are arguments that cattle on marginal land are better for the environment than leaving the land unused because they are better able to sequester carbon than nothing. The environmental discussion that is “clearly pro-vegan” requires bringing in countries that are downright backwards and use their behaviors to overwhelm the many countries where animal ranching provide overall benefit.
And there’s as many Ethical arguments for meat eating as there are for veganism. The “big” argument for veganism here is the classic Utilitarian argument for veganism, but it has easily been beaten by Negative Utilitarian and straight-Utilitarian counters.
And since many of us aren’t Christian or adherents to any Divine Command theory, “morality” is itself unethical and unsustainable to us.
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Dietary preferences and choices aren’t exclusive to left wing politics.
Veganism isn’t so much a “dietary preference” as a way of life that recognizes animals as sentient beings and aims to minimize their suffering as much as possible (i.e. it’s not only about not eating them).
That aside: In my experience, giving a shit about the well-being of others, regardless of race or species, isn’t exactly common on the political right.
Dietary choice has nothing to do with being left/right wing.
But you see, this time it’s inconvenient to me personally, so I will defend my habits and fight for them to never change even if it means suffering to others, even if the evidence that is harmful are obvious and out there. What do you mean “definition of conservatism”?
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See, there’s that religion creeping in again.
Morals, that’s religion right there, and when a religion starts from the default of assuming it’s the only right answer, it’s a shit religion, no matter what other arguments are involved.
Morals aren’t religion, at all.
Religion can be said to be an expression of moral alignment, but morals are baked into you, braided into your meat, if you will.
would you get mad if someone kicked a dog for fun? Would it upset you if someone punched you in the face or stole your stuff? If so gtfo with that religious attitude, morals are only related to religion and the rest of us enlightened atheists can do anything we want
edit: to be clear, morals are important and good when they’re constructed rationally to protect sentient beings (human and non-human) from exploitation and abuse. Religious morals are deeply problematic because they’re not constructed rationally, and they try to restrict consenting adults from doing certain things together and they allow other horrific behaviors as totally fine. There’s a large, meaningful difference between animal rights and religious morals
Lmmfao!
Boy howdy, did you jump the rails on that one.
I love when vegans get all zealot and het up :)
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;)
Morals is not religion. If anything I vehemently dispute religion claiming any ownership of morals. See Plato on morals for more details. But I would say that highest of morals is the highest well-being of humans. This would apply not only from philosophical approach but also from an evolutionary one.
Having said that, I don’t believe eating meat is immoral. It is how we evolved, and eating meat is part of what is to be human.
There is a lot of behaviours and quirks that we’re evolved with and which we unequivocally consider being immoral. Like, racism for example.
If your morality includes promoting well-being of others, killing and eating said others, while having perfectly good alternative, goes kinda against it. If you for some reason only include humans (and probably dogs and cats I suppose) in a list of others that you care about, animal farms still contribute so much to our downfall, advocating for not doing it is the only consistent position.
Obviously, it’s not illegal to admit that your morality doesn’t goes beyond the boundaries of your body (or your family, whatever), but I would argue that we kind of need different word for it at this point.There are multiple incorrect interpretations you are picturing. I did not say every behavior that came to existence are moral. Nor is evolution itself moral. I meant that morality came to existence because of human evolution as a whole, because it allows greater growth of humans and what is greater is selected through natural selection. Well being of humans is also not well being of singular or a single family. They would often be at counter to each other. Eating and killing others is obviously detrimental to humanity even if it would have benefited a single individual.
Benefit of humanity extends indirectly to other animals. But not directly. That is, the benefit of other animal does not matter, cats and dogs included. But these animals, including farm animals, or wildlife, do bring positive value to humanity. As an hyperbolic example, if skinning cats alive somehow benefited humanity, I would consider that a moral act and our perception of that act would follow. Furthering this example, we don’t consider annihilation of mosquitos (which humans actively partake in) to be immoral (just questionable consequences) because they seemingly bring no benefit to humanity.
My view on morality is not arbitrary. It is a question of what is good for humans as a whole. If yes, it is moral. If not, it is immoral.
Psst, be vewy vewy kwiet, I’m twowwing vegans.
Get enough of this type of content and it will turn you vegan.
This type of content? You mean food preparation? What part of this is supposed to disgust me or make me want to stop eating meat?
Yeah, it makes me hungry
I don’t get it. It looks like somebody’s put overly emotive text on an image of somebody preparing food in a very fancy manner?
Nah, veganism is a religion. You don’t get into a religion because of pictures of meat.
Now, pictures like this may turn someone’s stomach and make them stop wanting to eat meat, though I have no idea how damn wimpy someone would have to be for this picture to bother them, but a piece of meat in front of them wouldn’t.
Hell, I’ve been wrist deep inside of wounds and it didn’t turn me vegan. I’ve cleaned up road kill and it didn’t turn me vegan.
This is just some clean meat decorated. It’s no different than stuffing a turkey, or butterflying a chicken breast, or doing a stuffed roast, or a braciole.
Seriously, I’m being a dick here, but you have to be a giant fucking wimp to see this picture and be so grossed out that you stop eating meat. Like, any motherfucker that can’t handle this picture would fucking die if they ever had to actually kill their own food. And that’s such a massively wimpy thing, I can’t think of a word for how utterly fucking lame that is. Like, motherfuckers, what the fuck would you do if you got injured and saw your own muscles? Pass the fuck out and die, that’s what would happen.
Are people really that disconnected from reality? That the sight of some clean meat is some kind of horror? Jesus fucking Christ on a pogo stick, how sheltered does someone have to be for that? I mean, offense intended, but anyone that grossed out by this picture needs to grow the fuck up and get some life experience.
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Agree overall, but I still downvoted because of the statement “veganism is a religion”.
You either don’t know what veganism is or what religion is.
As a meat eater, I applaud anyone that follows or wants to move towards a (more) vegan diet.
Is it not though? Vegans act like it’s their religion, it fulfills similar social needs, they behave in the same wau as religious zealots. They exhibit the same assumption that their belief is the one true belief, and anyone that does not come to their belief is flawed.
Seems pretty similar to me
That’s a small but loud minority.
I don’t see any other vegans calling them down for it
I see no reason why they would be obligated to do so, also not a vegan, but still.
You’re gettin downvoted, but you’re right. It’s the metric we’re coming to use for any group. It’s “okay” if your group has some fringe members that need to be distanced from. It becomes “not okay” when the majority silently accepts the horrible behavior of them.
Similarly, very few cops take abusive actions against minorities, but the number of cops who will defend that behavior in the name of “police brotherhood” closes in at 100%.
People who are downvoting you are out-of-touch with the fact that they are “the good cop who does nothing” in their own group.
Because it’s not a community. It’s millions of random people that have nothing to do with each other and thus don’t see the loud minority or feel the need to correct them. Of course you can create small group out of them, like the vegans of twitters, but they do not represent the many 60 yo Asians that just don’t eat meat.
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This is just zealots like any belief. It is not all vegans. I have been vegetairian for 30 years amd vegan for about 3, other than responding to you I never “promote” my life choice to anyone or try to convert anyone. It only comes up if a coworker say he lets grab dinner and I order a tofu curry while they have a steak. I even worked at a place for over 5 years before finding out a fellow employee was vegan. It just never comes up.
My cousin is like that. I enjoy trolling online vegans because they tend to be the zealots, but I don’t actually have anything against the “ism” itself. Different strokes, and all that.
My cousin gets a big old pot of vegan chili when he’s in town because he likes it, and I like making it for him. We poke fun at each other over bowls of the stuff.
I was part of the vegan cult for years until I read this comment, thank you for saving me.
I was a wimp. I didn’t enjoy the idea of harming and killing animals, I had watched videos of animals being gutted alive and having their throats cut and squirming for literal minutes afterwards. This was uncomfortable, but only because I was a wimp.
After reading your comment I manned up and took my dog and 2 cats, strung them up while they were whimpering (which was hilarious), and slit their throats, cooked their delicious innards, and am finally able to walk again (I was only able to crawl because I had been nutrient deficient for so long despite what my libtard doctors told me).
I’m happy to live in a free country where I can do whatever I want with my property. In China I bet you can’t cook a dog because the government is just a bunch of moralizing leftists. God gave us domain over animals, and so I get to choose what I want to do with the animals I purchase.
Lmao! Dude, that’s the single best response in the entire thread! Counter-trolling ftmfw! I can’t even come back at that one, I’m laughing too hard. No bullshit, thank you for that :)
You had me until “veganism is a religion”
Lmao! I see what you did there
That’s a lot of words
Have you watched dominion
Yes. It didn’t change my opinion.
Cool. It’s good to be aware of the unlimited suffering we cause.
Big ol eye roll.
Not about wimpiness or grimacing at the picture. More about gradually recognizing that you’re just eating pieces of animal flesh. For me, that went hand in hand with studying biology & med textbooks, about a decade ago. Not irrational, I’m not going “it’s icky”, it’s me knowing what the chemical composition is, where it came from, what it is, and going, “yeah this is fucking nasty”.
Eating rotisserie chicken is what made me fully realize we were just chowing down on animal carcass. It’s fucking delicious, and I eat rotisserie chicken all the time.
Yeah, I’ve eaten it, there’s an aspect to it you may not have dialed into yet. Hard to describe.
Dennis Leary described it perfectly. “Meat tastes like murder, and murder tastes pretty goddamn good.”
Lol don’t worry, I get it. I used to hate it as a kid because the bones grossed me out but when I matured and realized it’s natural for animals to eat other animals, it became much more appetizing to me. I guess the advantage of being on omnivore is you can choose to abstain from that, but I like eating animals.
Getting hungry for meat probably is going to have the opposite effect.
Although at first I thought this was just some wool roving.
(x) doubt
It will *get you a Michelin star ftfy
I really doubt that
