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    with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group

    Civilian deaths and cutting off resource supplies to your enemy happens in every war. It’s when the intent is the destruction of a people that it becomes a genocide, and you have yet to provide any proof of that.

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        In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group […]

        any of these as long as there’s intent to destroy. Without intent to destroy, it’s not a genocide. Quite simple, really, if you read the charter.

        None of the links prove or even hint at intent to destroy the Palestinian population. They hint at fears that Israel might occupy Gaza partiallly or fully and even displace Palestinian civilians permanently. While absolutely terrible, that isn’t genocide according to the Geneva Conventions you quoted above.

        Again, where’s your proof for intent to destroy the Palestinian people?

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          It seems you haven’t read any of the linked articles, so there is no need to talk about this any further until you do.

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            I did read the articles, but they just don’t mention a plan to destroy the Palestiniam people:

            • CBC: Talks about displacement, no mention of destruction.
            • NPR: Talks about the prospects of an Israeli occupation, no mention of displacement or destruction.
            • USA Today: Same as NPR.
            • People’s World: Same as CBC.
            • UN: Talks about occupation of the West Bank, no mention of destruction.
            • Foreign Policy: Same as UN.
            • ABC News: Same as UN.
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      "The minister, who also has some powers over the Israeli unit that controls border crossings and permits for Palestinians, has a long history of denying the existence of a Palestinian nation and has previously made controversial statements about them as well as on other issues like LGBTQ rights.

      Earlier this month, he made incendiary comments saying that the in the West Bank “needs to be erased”’

      https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/21/middleeast/israel-smotrich-palestinians-intl/index.html

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          State policy is made up of the opinions of those in power. They’re not going to put in their state policy “we want to ethnically cleanse Palestine” but you can use some critical thinking, read the opinions of those in the government, and see that is their intention.

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          The Prime Minister of Israel is a Holocaust revisionist. He led a protest that included death threats towards his opposition.

          At what point do you look at the evidence and say, hey, maybe a genocide is happening. Hey, all these officials are referring to a minority as subhuman.