A few years ago I became seriously ill. I was in a coma on heavy duty meds, and had a kidney transplant. I’m much better than I was, but I can’t do a lot of things like I could before.

We’ve now got quite a few kids in the extended family, so a while ago I wrote a short story to try to make it easier for them to understand. My wife and family like the story and have suggested making it into a picture story book. Problem is, I can’t draw and my imagination isn’t very good.

How can I get pictures for the story if I can’t do it myself and don’t have the money to hire someone? I want to avoid using AI tools because of the potential copyright issues.

I haven’t tried the services like Fiverr because I’ve heard that they force a race to the bottom on prices, but does anyone have any experience, or have any ideas of what I can do please?

Thanks in advance :)

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    11 months ago

    Have you considered www.OpenClipArt.org ?

    XOR, you can simply learn actual-drawing, which isn’t difficult, it does require a kind of honesty/patience & the actually right instruction…

    The book you’d need is “Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain, the 4th Definitive Edition”, by Betty Edwards.

    These drawing-pairs are from her 5-DAYS killer-class.

    https://www.drawright.com/before-after

    Unless you’re autistic, like me, 5 days is possible.

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      11 months ago

      Can you help me understand what you mean by “ Unless you’re autistic, like me, 5 days is possible”? Are you saying you think you can’t learn to draw in that time frame because of your autism?

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        not the OP you replied to, but someone else who loves the Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain book.

        I think 5 days is ambitious. but a lot of what the exercises are doing is training you to see a different way. so it’s not impossible.

        someone neurodivergent may struggle to get what the exercises are trying to teach or to reach the point they’re aiming for, so it might take them longer. those more inclined to pick it up faster probably aren’t going to need the exercises in the book; it’s already natural to them.

        as we grow up, we learn “this is what a tree looks like, this is a dog looks like, this is what a car looks like”, etc etc. the way we see a new car then goes through that filter of “this is what a car looks like”. those filters are great for quickly identifying things and generally being a human in the world, so you don’t get hit by a car while you’re still figuring out if it is a car.

        but those filters get in the way of drawing accurately. your eyes aren’t literally filtering anything; that’s all in your brain. so you need to learn to stop that part of your brain when you draw. that’s the biggest part of being able to draw decently. the rest is technical skill you get with practice.

        I’d still recommend the original OP look for an artist collaborator, since children’s books need the illustrations to be as strong as the writing. there’s no way to get there in just 5 days.

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        One possible interpretation is that autistic individuals can sometimes tend to go a bit overboard when finding a new hobby. We will sometimes find a new topic so engaging that we develop a “special interest” in it and spend days/weeks delving into every possible piece of information and niche knowledge available about that topic, considering all the implications and what-ifs and following all the informational leads.

        Spending merely the minimum time required (which in this example is apparently 5 days) to get proficient is harder to estimate because an autist may instead need to spend weeks learning everything. Or, they might not.

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          For me it’s the opposite - I want to learn the minimum needed to accomplish something, and being forced to study is very difficult. At least, that’s how my brain sees it.

          I want to learn, and would be happy to focus on a drawing class, but the neurodivergent part of my brain sees that as torturous. Being forced to do something that I don’t want to do, even if it leads to me doing something that I do want to do, is like nails down a blackboard.

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            Your description of “being forced to do something” sounds like a distinct situation from a special interest. Special interests are driven by the individual themselves, not forced upon them. I wonder if what you’re thinking of might be the phenomenon called PDA (“pathological demand avoidance”, or more recently rephrased - more accurately IMO - as “persistent demand for autonomy”).

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      11 months ago

      Have you considered www.OpenClipArt.org ?

      I hadn’t, mainly because I hadn’t heard of it before :D

      It looks like a great resource though, so thank you :)

      Unfortunately, the chances of me learning to draw are slim. I can draw a passable doodle if I can get my head in the right place, but as I said in the post, my imagination is awful. I can’t picture things properly, so can’t get a mental image of what I want the thing on the paper to look like. I’m waiting on a diagnosis of autism and ADHD and possibly aphantasia. Trying to get things down on paper is very difficult for me.

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        Before cheap, ubiquitous photographic reproduction, drawing was taught to people as a skill.

        You might not be the next Gary Larsen (I’m no dillitente) but I bet if you tried you could become a good illustrator.

        Having said that, you still have to learn inking, coloring, etc.

        Just wanted to say I think most people can learn the skill in the same way most people can learn to write a rhetorical essay or do arithmetic.

        Edit: not trivializing your issues, friend, just offering encouragment!

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          not trivializing your issues, friend, just offering encouragment!

          Don’t worry, that’s how I took it :)

          You make a good point. I need to try drawing and keep practising. Even if it does turn out to be useless for the book, I can still draw with the kids.

          I might even make them feel good be being so much better than me! :D

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            Make a children’s book about practicing skills and getting better at them.

            I helped a friend’s six year old daughter learn that by having her make the same paper airplane repeatedly until she mastered it.

            Apparently nobody in school had yet taught her that one’s level of skill is not a fixed thing. Before that thing with the paper airplanes whenever she’d try something new she’d see her first failure and then exclaim “oh, I can’t do this!” and then give up.

            Honestly nobody taught me about practice making skills better in school either. Not sure why such a fundamental part of using one’s brain is neglected in our schools but it is.

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              That’s a very good point. I’m hopeless at practicing. I’ve got ADHD, so find it hard to do something that I don’t want to do at the moment, and when I was younger I could pick up new skills fairly easily, so never bothered learning properly. I would do as much as it took to be ok at something, then usually stop there.